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Performance History
Robert: I should state that obviously not all of the shows hit the mark exactly, they were often messy and intense. With never really doing the same show we took a lot of risk! Every show was a risk! We certainly improved over the years and the quality kept shooting up as our shows got rarer to almost no failures.
Julian: Indeed, things were rather sloppy at the start as we searched for a voice. But the goal right from the start was to make every performance different, never repeating. That required a substantial amount of dedication on the part of all participants (especially Robert and myself) as new songs had to be learned and created every time. |
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Origins ![]() ![]() |
Robert: Julian and I were roomies when July fourth Toilet started, we also were both very much into comic books and records, both very much informed our work. That, plus neither of us had very many limits in terms of music loving and music making. We enjoyed records where possibilities were a huge factor and we wanted to explore possibilities. Julian brought a very strong melodic sensibility and a sweet guitar tone. See, we also loved pop hooks. The name was given to Julian and myself in January by the Zip Code Rapists.
Julian: Robert and I toyed with a variety of names at the start, the only one I can recall was Hummina Hummina (a Jackie Gleason reference?). I do have some cassette recordings of our first rehearsals. One song that stands out for me on the tape is "The Plants Are Evil! Oh Yes They Are!" Excerpts from interview with the Zip Code Rapists, John Singer and Gregg Turkington, in Robert's zine Bunyon: The Journal Of Daytonology, Act 6: Gregg: There's a list. He [John] had a band and he wanted me to name the band, and so I wrote up a list of 50 names or so. John: 2 pages.
Gregg: I said pick one of these names and he didn't pick any. The Easygoings was on that list, Zip Code Rapists was on it, the mighty US Saucer was on it, and Faxed Head was on it. The list was made in about 3 minutes. We have a lot of names unused, but we still use them all. ...
Rob: I'm wondering, my band does living room bush re-recordings of concept albums. We're looking for a name, could we - Gregg: Come down to San Francisco, you can see the list. It's under glass in the museum there. John: July Fourth Toilet. Gregg: Shit! [his clanging glass breaks] Rob: July Fourth Toilet, that's not a bad name. ... [we haggle over the name July Fourth Toilet.] Rob: July Fourth Toilet. Gregg: If you don't use it, don't put it in the interview because somebody might use it. That we don't want. |
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Ball Hockey Tournament
Emily Carr Institute of Art & Design |
Robert: Just Julian and I performing the national anthem before the tournament, which was put on by Jason McLean and Jay Isaac. Julian: I had just got a clarinet from Mike "Sorehead" Sauret and played in for the first time since grade 9 band. |
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Random Gigs ![]() |
Robert: Julian and I found a drummer, a German gal named Denise who really liked to rock. She was into rock! It pretty much started with just the three of us. Julian: Denise eventually left us to complete her doctorate in cloning. At the time of her departure she was already the mother to a brood of identical fruit flies and squid. Robert: Sometimes we'd show up impromptu at shows and do little sets spur of the moment in between acts. One such set was at a warehouse space that some fire breathing Modern Primitive act was playing at (hey, it was the 90s). The progressive hardcore Vancouver act Insult To Injury who later became Submission Hold played. Andy their bassist sat in with us as we did three songs including "Everybody Loves Somebody" by Dean Martin. A Mohawked fella in a dress said afterwards that we reminded him of King Uskiewicz and The Uskiewicz Tones. Julian: Another gig that was documented on video was the Ted Dave Bar-B-Q. The performances were held in the back yard and just as we were getting into the chorus of "Lucy In The Sky With Diamonds" the cops interrupted us and forced us into the basement. Eric Napier sat in on bass, and I do believe Meow (later Maow, featuring Neko Case on drums) opened for us. |
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Battle of the Bands March 24 & 26, Southwall, North Vancouver w/ Wicked Swimming Dog and others |
Robert: Sandi Morris had now joined as our bassist. Shayne Ehman of Staked Plain joined to play whatever he wanted, he stayed for at least five years and really added a lot to the band. This was our first "official" show, he was so important to the act. He is an explorer in the possibilities of sound and sounds, a very needed layer in our dynamic. I cannot begin to name all of the exotic and not so exotic instruments that he has played! His mates in Staked Plain (do seek out their album for some folk damage) Adrien and Josh Stevenson joined us on many occasions over the years. Adrien was there for the first year or so. Josh still plays with us at times! Shayne left sometime before the first album (unsure exactly when), we were trying to be a "band" at the time. Even so, he was and is sorely missed. Our experiment being a band eventually ended. Shayne joined us - along with Josh - for some of the sessions on Balls Boogie (2008). Who else played at this point? Hmmm.... For this show we submitted a fake demo that was actually of the band Anal Cunt that played, what did Napalm Death play? Grindcore? Death metal? I dunno. This was one of those sorta all ages teen venue hang outs. Teens with taste I should add as they voted the multi-pedaled grunge act Wicked Swimming Dog off immediately and us into the finals. For the first round Carl Newman and Keith Parry of Superconductor showed up to watch, we did a Superconductor cover as I mimicked Carl's twitchy mannerisms. For the finals I remember having felt marker written on myself and a nightie. I had made sweet love to my childhood teddy bear a few months before. For the show I threw the stuffing of said teddy into the crowd and the peeps played with it including a gal who joined one of my later acts briefly. John Paul of the infamous act Hump guested with us, his one and only time, he sang "Stairway to Heaven" and also held up an organ for me to play during "Piano Man" as it only worked when held aloft upside down. An honour as I remember this one Hump gig where I was on liquid acid and all these fights broke out through their feedback squalor with one member in a wedding dress doing cartwheels through the fights. Julian: Didn't John Paul also play the vacuum cleaner? Robert: The venue's adult chaperone was upset at us, rumors of drugs and alcohol floated around, yet I was sober; they made us cut our set short and we didn't win. Future Toilet member jody interviewed us for his Wow ziney. I was annoying. Hey, I was a naive 21 years of age. And there were a great deal of shows where I was annoying! jody: I thought they were about the coolest thing I'd ever seen. Of course I was going to feature them in my zine! I knew Robert (Bunyon) and Julian (Rubberneck) because they were fellow zinesters, and the good Rev. Rot N. Hell (Gee-Zuz) was present for the interview, and gave me a ride home in his VW bus art car. The punks running the show took themselves way too seriously. Someone unplugged the band because they found them a little too wild, I guess. During the interview, the band told me that, hey, that's okay, that's how they know when to end the show. Denise refused to speak English during the interview (jody: "are you speaking German?" Denise: "Nein.") Shayne spoke nonsense, or punctuated the interview with random non sequiturs like "we sniff pocket pussies, man." And Robert got *really* worked up when he talked about his "cummy teddy bear stuffing." |
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Trucker Song Trilogy
02 April, ANZA Club w/ Caroliner, Star Pimp and Superconductor ![]() |
Julian: A testament to our sloppy beginnings.
Robert: We wanted to open for Caroliner so bad that we agreed to play for free and poster for the show as arranged by Keith from Scratch, he was like that. A lot. I still have my Caroliner tee shirt. Our first official show. I had a paper suit from Chinatown that quickly fell apart to reveal a diaper. We did a trucking medley, Denise hated that as she wanted to rock. On "Teddy Bear" I gave out stuffed animals to the crowd. Lester played keyboard bloops for the first time since the White Trash Album cassette, he was our layout guy later on for our full lengths and designed us a snazzy logo as well. Onstage for this show I had an odd, non-aggressive demeanor. I was nervous and awkward as Hell! Even with such a geeky demeanor some uptight indie rock asshole said I was no Gregg Turkington in some poorly photocopied zine which ticked me off at the time. Gregg was certainly one of our many influences (and one of the few contemporary ones in the slim picking 90s) and came up with our name! Still I was probably more influenced by Three Day Stubble that night. A video of this show existed but may now be lost to the ages. Might be just as well. Jason McLean was our videographer before he just wanted to sit back and watch the show after doing all the hard work beforehand making the elaborate costumes, etc. jody (excerpt from show review in Wow #2): A very noisy night, to say the least. First up were July 4th Toilet, led by local weirdo Rob Dayton, who sang the whole set wearing only an adult diaper. His vocals were often incoherent high-pitched squeals bursting out over a bed of white noise. The highlight of their show was their "trucker song trilogy," which included a very high-energy, punked-up and whacked-out version of "Convoy." |
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Tommy 11 June, The Old American ![]() |
Robert: I think a magician was on the bill. The American was gentrifying from skid row bar to alternative rock venue so doing The Who's Tommy fit perfectly. Never cared much for Tommy but it fit, we did the whole thing. Julian: I got all the sheet music from the library and learned each song to perfection. But when mashed with the cacophony all around, it was pure Toilet.The only change we made from the Who's version of Tommy was to replace their "We're not Gonna Take It" with Twisted Sister's "We're Not Gonna Take It." Robert: Licorice Whips' friend, a lil black plastic baby doll, played Tommy. My friend Mark Klemola who got back from India played tablas with his friend Ryan. Marc Bell of The All Star Schnauzer Band was in our line up for this one, he played a few summer shows with us while he was visiting town. He played snorkel. I danced with a lady who could barely walk as Marc sang "Pinball Wizard" through a snorkel. Did we have any shows before this and after Caroliner? Hmmm. Was performance artist Jay McLaughlin in the band at this point? When did jody join? Leave? Join again? jody: This was my first gig. A night or two before the show, I was on the phone with Robert, and he asked if I wanted to play the show. "But Robert," I protested, "I haven't rehearsed with you! I don't know the songs, I don't know how to play any instruments!" He said, "oh, that's alright, don't worry about it. Just show up, I'll give you an instrument to play, and you can do what you want with it." So I showed up a few minutes before the band took the stage. "Oh, jody, here!" Robert handed me a washboard. Dumbfounded, I sat on the edge of the overcrowded stage, and scratched and scraped the hell out of that thing for the entire show. I had no idea what I was doing, but I sure knew I wanted to do It again. Marc: I barely remember any of this (I have a terrible memory). Are you sure it wasn't On/Off Schnauzer playing snorkel? But seriously, it's hard to get a sound out of a snorkel. I do remember being very nervous about singing "Pinball Wizard" and messing it up. Yes, I was saved by the dancing antics going on nearby. It's kind of great there was actually a Toilet gig at the (now defunct) Old American. jody: I remember Marc in rehearsals after this show, rehearsing the snorkel. He was so intense on that thing, really into it. To this day I have no idea how he did what he was doing. |
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Billy Joel Tribute 25 June, Hastings Community Center w/ Nimrod and Facepuller |
Julian: I got all the sheet music from the library for this one too. Essentially I was the sinking ship's anchor for most of these gigs.
Robert: This was supposed to be with Three Day Stubble, which was why we begged to play it but they canceled due to touring problems. Still, Nimrod was a neat act. This marked the debut of The Toilettes (Alexis O' Hara, a gal named Karen and someone else). They never played with us again, tho' we did have a "New Toilettes." Pussyarse did sound and mic'ed everything individually: sound check took a grueling hour and a half. It was a bad set as well. I learned to never cover material you don't care about, even though I was really trying to find an appreciation for Billy Joel. Bad idea. The show was sparsely attended. Wozzle, who put on the show, got the date wrong on the poster: it happened on June 25th. About 100 kids showed up on Monday, July 25th, for no show. jody: My second show. I actually got to practice for this one and learn a bunch of Billy Joel songs on the washboard. I could sing, even back then; hell, I'd been in choir in high school, and was in a jazz vocal group called The Guyz Who Vocalize who actually did a Joel song for a jazz fest, "For The Longest Time." But I kept my mouth shut, my head down, and I scratched the shit out of that washboard (a metal one, still have no idea who it belonged to) with some half-pound piece of metal. I remember what I wore: a floppy golf hat, a Daniel Johnston "Yip Jump Music" t-shirt, and walking shorts. I don't remember there being an audience at all. Pussyarse put all this reverb and echo and stuff on our sound because he thought we'd sound better or something. I don't think he really liked, appreciated or understood what we were doing, so he was just fucking around. He was just one in a long line of people who figured they could do whatever they wanted with us while we were on stage, out of either a lack of respect, or complete bewilderment. |
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Claudio's Birthday The Hungry Eye |
Robert: Shawn Conner was at this show, he'd later write about us for various papers; a guy turned to him and said, "this is the worst band I've ever seen." This was Claudio of Blast! Records' birthday party. Can't remember how old he turned. He wanted some Rolling Stones so we did "Sing This Song Together." This show was pure carnage. Sandi Morris quit the band mid-set onstage so Keith of Scratch Records started playing as we had the bass notes written out. Then Pussyarse played bass, every time I turned around there was a new bassist. Pussyarse stayed for a few shows in varying capacities. Some dread-locked guy came up on stage and started ripping pages out of a book. Lick the Pole was supposed to open but canceled, yet the two gals showed up to bump and grind with the 12 foot long scarf my Mom knit me, and to steal Marc's snorkel, his musical instrument, to spank each other with. Performance artist Alexis O'Hara (under name of Chartreuse Chanteuse) duetted with me on Nancy and Lee song "Sand." Lee was someone I was obsessed with, big reason why I grew my moustache around this time. Julian: I remember when Robert first grew his moustache I thought he was trying to look like Ned Flanders (without the six-pack abs). |
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Waffle Queen 14 August, Gallery Sansair ![]() |
Robert: This is documented in the new issue of The Ganzfeld. I think it might have just been Julian and Marc Bell and myself for this, The All Star Schnauzer Band couldn't play for some reason. The Waffle Queen marched down Hastings. There was a lot of All Star Schnauzer Band art. Maura Doyle and Annie Dunning made cake. We did a song for The Waffle Queen. A total event.
jody: This was a cool little gathering, but my relationship with the band had soured. I guess Robert and Julian were frustrated with the way the band was going, with the defections of Denise and Sandi, the lack of seriousness they were encountering with some members, that sort of thing. So they kind of fired a lot of people. Well, in a passive-aggressive way: they didn't invite some people to play with them again. Maybe that was their plan all along, to be the only two members in every show forever, with a rotating cast. But I was hurt. I had played three shows with them, and was an honorary member of the band for an interview with Pop Gazer zine before I stepped on the stage with them. Sure, I was a rank amateur, I couldn't play a damned instrument, I couldn't even figure out how to make a snorkel work like Marc had done, all I had was a borrowed washboard with a hole in it. I was having a lot of fun that summer, I made some new friends, I was performing, I liked everything that was happening, I didn't want it to end, didn't want it to be taken away. I was proud of July Fourth Toilet. So I confronted Robert and Julian at this show: "Why did you fire me?" I think this is the only time I can ever recall Julian being mad at me. He practically yelled at me, in his quiet way: "you weren't fired!" Um, okay. I was out of the band for six months. Their decision to rehire me was purely political. Julian: Hmmm. jody wasn't fired. Not that time. The Toilet was continually re-inventing itself. Well, maybe not re-inventing, more like falling apart, mixing up the pieces and gluing them back together with an unstable epoxy. Some of the pieces would fall under the coach, but we'd always find them again eventually. |
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Tubular Bells 19 August, Maddog's Scrapyard w/ Lutini the Magician ![]() ![]() |
Robert: My brother Frank Ackerman was a natural to join us on Tubular Bells, a record that i could never get through (we later only explored works we absolutely loved). Frank influenced me in alot of ways, he was the consummate long haired rock guitarist, he could play all of the parts in Tubular Bells. Growing up I remember looking at the sleeves to his Molly Hatchet records, his Max Webster, Pat Travers, and so on. He encouraged my move to Vancouver, away from the small town. Because of him two of my favorite songs as a boy were "Crazy Train" and "Unchained," both such great, great songs. Frank has joined us on a few occassions, most notably on the recording of our album Balls Boogie (2008).
Mark Gabriel and Andre Lagace also joined us for the first time on Tubular Bells and haven't ever left! We started practicing and recording in their home even! These fellas went above and beyond the call of the duty and they "got" it, whatever "it" was at the time. Mark, of course, engineered and recorded so many of our sessions, he truly documented the Toilet's sounds, and would add whatever sounds were required, be it bells or a turntable suitcase. He would often play the utmost ridiculous live instrumentation. Andre is such a great versatile bassist, the quiet knowing one who knows that musicianship can be in the band to shape things and to flow with and guide all other elements. He's melodic like Julian and would help engender us to be intentionally overwrought when needed.
I played triangle and was to do a Vivian Stanshall-like announcing of the instruments, but I got too drunk to be able to do it. I was de-pantsed at this show, starting a legacy of nudity for me in the act. I simply wrapped the mic cord around my penis. Mad Dog, who ran the space, told me we would burn our bridges. I said, "We're July Fourth Toilet. We like our bridges burnt." My first girlfriend Kim was at this show, seeing us for the first time. She was almost going to stop going out with me because of it. A magician opened for us - not the same magician as at The American - and I broke his prop chair. Denise quit the band right before this show as she did not want to play prog, she wanted to rock. Our mandate was to provoke without being loud, fast, or heavy. So she joined the band Motorama. A great intense show. Julian: Once again, I arranged the music with the help of the record and sheet music. Frank was superb. It certainly was laborious now that I think about it. All those prog tunes and melodies were almost distinguishable through the haze of noise. The video shows me walking off stage at the end, clutching my head in frustration as Robert howls into the mic, in a drunken attempt at drowning out the feedback.
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Boy In The Plastic Bubble 09 September, Malcolm Lowry Room w/ Three Day Stubble ![]() |
Robert: We finally get to open for a real inspiration to us, nerd rock act Three Day Stubble! We decided to pay tribute to The Boy In The Plastic Bubble. This show marks the first costume that Jason McLean made for us! This suit was made completely out of bubble wrap, I invited the audience to step on my back and pop the bubbles. All songs were Travolta based (this was before his Pulp Fiction resurgence) and originals were written about TV Movies and being Trapped In the Bubble. We nonsensically ended with "Tusk" that Donald the Nut played trumpet on. My brother Frank played guitar this set. This may have been Max Lee's first show on drums. Did performance artist Jay McLaughlin join on this show? Jay was great, man, she was ready for anything onstage, utterly fearless and it showed, damn, she was funny, she smoked cigarettes and it seemed appropriate, I miss that gal. Was Mark Klemola still in the band? I remember there being a conversation about how there was too many unnecessary members so he and jody got ousted. What a stupid conversation for an act such as this. Luckily, at least jody came back. A video exists somewhere, love to see it again. It was a great show. Julian: Lester provided synth squawks for this one too, didn't he? Thus marking his final live foray with the Toilet. |
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Country Music Groovin' For Grub - Feed the Food Bank 16 December, 409 E. Broadway w/ Wandering Lucy and Swallowtail |
Robert: This was a food bank fundraiser that college radio station CITR didn't want to mention on their station due to their Battle Of the Bands happening that night. Nevertheless, 800 dollars was raised. We did a tribute to country music. Lots of kids played ball hockey. This was in a church hall. During our country version of "Only Women Bleed," Jay McLaughlin, our sole female that show, started bleeding profusely. I had a crazy glittery lasso I swung around which made some acid tripping folks in front flip out. There was a strange cartoony dog house prop that I sang out of. Adrian of Staked Plain played harmonica throughout the set in a way that I told him was depressing, I shouldn't have said that, he was great. Julian: As we were playing, a large smiley-faced balloon half-filled with helium floated in from outside and across the dance floor, making for a nice acid moment. Jay got blood on my guitar. |
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Teen: A Pop-Rock Musical February, CITR Radio |
Robert: A musical Julian found that was aimed at teens. We performed this strictly on radio at CITR's Radio Thunderbird Hell. Nardwuar and Evan Symons were very supportive. I really got to know Evan better this night, he engineered. He also let me play the 14-minute song by Wizzard after we performed. Roy Wood's Wizzard was a huuuuuge influence on us as well as The Bonzo Dog Band. At the time At the time Julian was working as a switchboard operator for phone sex and he had this one co-worker who we got to belt out a few songs in her Concrete Blonde style. There were a lot of odd samples that Mark Gabriel did. We do have a copy of this. Julian: Our pal Alexis Gall (later business manager for the Drippy Gazette) gave me this record complete with libretto and sheet music. It was perfect for J4T. Weeks of rehearsals using primarily acoustic instruments and sampling. The cast included a fellow phone-sex employee named Nadya who had actually seen the original version of Teen performed at her high school. Her voice reminds me of Axl Rose's. Nardwuar said we sounded like Beck. Evan: This was the first time I ever witnessed July Fourth Toilet. I was very impressed and recorded the show on my DAT recorder. Robert pretty much begged incessantly to get on the bill of a show that Nardwuar was putting on - I think it was Harvey Sid Fischer, the astrology song guy. jody: I was re-hired for this gig. I had to be introduced to most of the band. Why was I re-hired? Nadya: The year was 1995, and I was a teenage girl working as a phone sex operator at a now-defunct outfit called Cybervoice in There were, however, numerous colourful characters employed by Cybervoice. Not all of them were necessarily appealing (one that springs to mind is a lady who would wriggle in her chair like an epileptic marlin as she gasped dirty nothings into her headset, prompting many of us to complain to the supervisor, who had the unsavory task of asking the lady to "calm it down for the sake of the others"), but a few were rather interesting. If we ladies were the hos, the switchboard operators were the pimps, and the two biggest pimps in the place were Julian, who seemed to be an impressive connoisseur of music, and Pussyarse, a fellow with an early Beatles haircut and a caustic commentary on absolutely everything… including the women who worked at Cybervoice. |
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Campfire Songs
29 April, Helen Pitt Gallery |
Robert: I don't remember this at all. Did this happen? |
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Song Poems 28 June, The Niagara w/ SMAK and the Loved One ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Robert: It was our first time playing The Niagara. This was a grunge bar. And a Welfare Wednesday show! The sound man was an asshole thinking we were a "fuck band," so he just screwed around with the sound and he cut us off after twenty minutes. At the beginning of the set Marc Bell dragged me onstage, I was covered in a sheet and sang "Atlantic City." We then all huffed whip cream dispensers: the audio of which is on our "Small Town Carnival" seven inch. Josh played pots and pans set up on a table that kept falling off. Mike Sauret on bleating trumpet. First show with us?
Julian: The recording of the music we belted out after huffing the spray cans captures perfectly the whirling twirling effect of the gas on our brains. Yes, it was Mike's first gig with us and as he was a "pro" didn't he insist on getting paid his $17.67? jody: I still have this image of him with his hand extended, insistent on getting what he thought was his exact cut at the door. And that same hand came out every gig. I've been with the band for fourteen years and I've never earned a dime. I guess that makes him, if nothing else, a better businessman than me. Robert: We were obsessed with song-poems and performed "Little Rug Bug" and "Steal My Music" (from a compilation tape by Don Bolles) and then got the audience to write lyrics for us to play. Many were disappointed we got cut off as they didn't get to hear their poems turned into songs.Around this time some creepy writer guy wanted us to back him up musically, turns out that I wouldn't even be able to sing or dress up and he'd have full control so we said no. Staked Plain did it and they played a gay youth club where this creepy writer kept leering at the youth and making comments. This made Staked Plain verrrry uncomfortable and thus ended their association with him! |
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Gloria Support Rally 27 June, Provincial Courthouse steps |
Robert: This was that odd midwife who was on trial. I have odd feelings about this one, not so sure of the politics involved. We performed "Having My Baby" and "Gloria" acoustically. The announcer couldn't bring herself to say our name so just called us "The July Fourth Band." I remember we took the bus there with our instruments and then busked downtown after which was fun! Jay, Mark G, Andre, Julian, Robert, Shayne, who else? Julian: This was the first time I ever saw Ian Hanomansing and I thought "what a hunk!" |
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Canada Day Backyard Barbeque 01 July, John Knowles' house |
Robert: I remember Duotron and Couch from Bulb Records were in town and I told them to come but they didn't, I wish they had as I had a real kinship with those people and still keep in touch with them. They went on to do Monotrona, Wolf Eyes and 25 Suaves, they were some of the few acts doing crazy stuff at the time! Anyhow this show was actually on the front porch and one can hear car horns and all that. Mark Mark first had his turntable audio cassette suitcase that he put to full use. I really miss that suitcase! The Molestics showed up to play trumpets and brought Susan Box on sax. This may have been her first show with us and she added so much to the band on vocals, sax, and flute! A version of the national anthem performed with a Barbie work out record. We were getting this extremely loose swampy country rock vibe at the time as well. I had a fine beller/caterwaul. Julian: I really like the grueling cover we did of "That's A Plenty" with full brass accompaniment. "Atlantic City" is swell, too. Susan: This was my first show with J4T, and right from the first I was welcomed, though I didn't know anybody and the guys who brought me took off again. It was an easy fit |
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Kids' Songs July, Helen Pitt Gallery |
Robert: Some shady guy got all these cartoonists together to make a jam comic that he was going to put out. He never did and no one got paid... hmmmm... Jason McLean made me a whole Mama bear and baby bear outfit, I had bear ears and a pouch for a stuffed baby bear. For this set I threw a lot of tantrums including bashing a stroller as Jay mothered me and fed me lots of mayonnaise. We did a creepy cover of Nancy and Lee's "Tippy Toes," "Shorty Blackwell" by The Monkees, Jim Copp and Ed Brown's "Messy Bess," and some mod instrumental nursery rhymes from the Kiddy A Go Go album. I remember, after all that, the set being so so. I was really trying hard to get a response but the venue was hard to do that with. Mike Sauret of The Molestics played trumpet. George of Vancouver's oldest band The Jades played keyboards, his first appearance in July Fourth Toilet. George was 80 years old and really played great pre-war era keys. He could wiggle his ears as well. Julian: Where is George these days? Cripes, he was pushing eighty when he played with us and that was twelve years ago so he's either pushin' up daisies or scratching and trying to win. We would go out for coffee on a fairly regular basis and even completed a song together that he had started in the 1930s. We lost touch after a couple of years and the last time I tried calling him (six years ago or so) the number was disconnected. |
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Tribute To Nico 22 July, Mercury Lounge w/ Manifold and Piezoolie |
Robert: We did two sets, the first set was originals where I had these crazy wood block things on my feet and arms loosely tied by rope and I danced around like that in hillbilly encumberment. For the second set I had a great outfit as Nico that Sandi Morris loaned me: blonde wig, make up, scarf, white pant suit et al. And moustache. I sang in a very Nico voice but it was hard to hear me due to the sound being a little rough. The rest of the band dressed in black. They were to have lava lamp projections on them by Jason McLean but somehow it didn't happen. At the set's end I rode my bike around the room until I crashed, just like how Nico died. This room had a large fake tree in the middle of it. Manifold was a pretty good funny party noise act. Piezoolie was a one off act of two gals playing toy instruments who arrogantly showed up, played their short set and left (they made it known that they didn't like us). I was angry and gave them less door money two weeks later (I had to track them down to give it to them) as I was a very "support your local scene" naive boy at the time. The one gal's boyfriend Keith Parry tore a strip off of me quite badly and they got extra money in the end. On a chipper note it was Jason Mclean's first date with his wife Heather that night. jody: I guess this was a good night for romance, as this is the first show I invited a girlfriend to see. And she liked it! Julian: It was also a bad night for romance as this girl I worked with came to the show drunk and crawled all over me. My old lady was furious! |
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25th Anniversary Show
04 August, Malcolm Lowry Room w/ the Zip Code Rapists
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Julian: The Lowry Room was such a great venue. I remember watching some band (I think it was Mecca Normal), standing right at the front, cigarette in one hand and a beer in the other. Robert: This was our 25 Years Of July Fourth Toilet show. I was real nervous opening for Zip Code Rapists, as they were so inspiring to me and had named us, but they thankfully liked us. Our set wasn't too bad. Julian played drums due to fear of playing guitar from some airplane incident (this was our 25th anniversary and lots happens over time). I set some doves free and read a poem in honor of all the fallen July Fourth Toilet members over our 25 year history. The doves fell out of the box dead. Sang "Sir Can You Love Her," which was the song I'd sing to people in the audience. I'd ask that person for the person next to them (no matter their gender) to "Give Them A Kiss!" Zip Code Rapists gave a memorably messy inspiring performance. Julian: Justice from Good Horsey came up behind me and fuckin' pantsed me! This I remember because I was wearing red silk shorts and no underwear. With both hands full, I stood there, pants around my ankles, and spun around to see Justice laffin' his fool head off. Jason Zumpano nicknamed me Coke Bottle after that due to my large and uncircumcised wang. jody: For some reason, I don't remember much about playing in this show, I remember the Rapists better. I remember talking to Therapist John Singer, and telling him about a Three's Company episode in which Janet mistook a therapist for "the rapist." They did this drunken version of "The Bear Went Over The Mountain." Just two guys, one guitar, hard liquor, sunglasses, but such power! Oh, yeah, and for some reason I remember it was a hot night for shows, that Maureen Tucker and The Red Krayola were both playing separate venues in town, sucking away our business. I guess this sealed my fate: I chose to play with July Fourth Toilet rather than see Mo Tucker! Mo Tucker! |
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30 Second Songs 06 December, The Hungry Eye w/ The Molestics and Max Murphy |
Julian: Great concept. Improvising dozens of 30 Second Songs is an excellent workout and fine for capturing the imagination of those with short attention spans.
Robert: That was a seriously fun set. jody was in full control. He had a timer and made sure our songs ended on time. Kleinz (Sister Lovers, Jungle) was in the audience. I made him come up and sing. I gave him the song titles "Space Camp" and "God Bless Ya" that jody ended after thirty seconds. jody: Yeah, a real confidence builder, I was starting to gain my chops. Oh, and my girlfriend's brother and his best friend were endlessly couch-surfing at our place for about a year. The best friend was this Australian snowboarder dude on a work visa, trying to keep a low overhead by mooching off me. Sometimes their girlfriends and other pals would stay over for days on end, and we'd have something like four extra bodies living in the house. Anyway, I invited Aussie dude to come out to this show. He fled in terror a few songs in because it was "too weird," as he told me the next day. He took off to some other dive in Gastown, got totally shitfaced, and peed all over my living room floor before I got home from the gig. |
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18 January, The Hungry Eye w/ The Molestics |
Robert: Was this show so soon after the last one? What was the theme? It was our third and last time there I remember that. I remember it was our first show that ended with "One Day...," a song I was very proud of as it was a real pop song. We had a big ugly wooden Grateful Dead skull that someone found on stage with us. We gave it to the lesbian bartenders who were confused.
jody: "One Day..." has always been one of my favorite songs to perform, from day one. We began our practice of going down into the audience, grabbing people by the hands, dancing around with them while exhorting them to sing along with us to the catchy, repetitive refrain of "one day is representative of our time together." Sometimes when we're doing this song, I feel I could sing it, dance around through the audience, forever, but usually we cut it off between five and ten minutes into the song. Julian: The version we do of "One Day..." on Something for Everyone is stupendous. |
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Michael Nesmith's Tantamount To Treason 28 January, the Niagara w/ Three Day Stubble and Cricketer ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Julian: The Monkees were my first musical influence from when I was 11. They weren't about rock n roll, they were about revolution and Mike Nesmith is a superb songwriter (almost all the tunes he wrote for them are gold: "Papa Gene's Blues," "Listen to the Band," "Nine Times Blue," "Good Clean Fun"). The Monkees are definitely overlooked by the industry purists who are trying to keep them out of the Hall of Fame. They did play their instruments: check out Monkees Live 1967. Sheesh!
Robert: Before our show we sent Mike Nesmith an email telling him about the tribute and wondering what the chords to "Highway 99 With Melange" were. He replied, "happy to hear it, good luck, I have no idea." Julian: Nesmith actually replied to our email as the internet was still in its infancy at that time and consisted of a mere handful of techno-geeks and computer nerds before the eventual brainwashing the masses. Well, 20% of the world's population by now.
Clancy: My first date with July Fourth Toilet! As a sought after professional drummer with vast gigging and recording experience. I, to this day, do not know why I dipped my toe into this unfathomable dark murky shambolic freakshow. Robert: We practiced for weeks to get our tribute to this amazing country prog album just so! I busted ass to try to sing well, though my good pop singing voice was a ways off. I call this the beginning of my mid era, less bellering, more trying to sing well and failing.
Even still after all that practicing Mike Sauret showed up at the show - and none of the practices - to bleat trumpet over everything and then demand a share of the band pay at the end! No one in our band ever got paid, it all went back to the fund. What a guy! Well, he was probably very broke and needed to eat. Clancy drummed. Wasn't Max the drummer around this era, or were we having a spat? Jason Mclean built me an amazing Nudie Nudie suit out of clear vinyl, it was a replica of Mike Nesmith's nudie suit but with a strategically placed peacock. There was KORG and George of the Jades on keys! Cricketer was Ian Christie's band and they were crazy ass country pop! Three Day Stubble were mind blowing as usual. Julian: I loved the peacock patch Jason applied to the groin area of the Nudie Nudie.
Susan: What a show! Within seconds of starting to sing, Robert does a high high kick and rips his vinyl nudie suit crotch apart - an accident! Duct tape appeared from somewhere and was applied between songs. Shayne played lap steel guitar. jody: And I played "lap slide mandolin." I still hadn't really "found myself" in the band yet, I was yet to come out of my performance shell. I would stake out my place in the front of the stage, I knew that's where I wanted to be, I knew I had something to contribute, but I wasn't quite there yet. If this was the beginning of Robert's mid-era, this was still the middle of my first era. I had this yellow highlighter I would slide back and forth over the fretboard while I plonked and plunked away at the strings, trying to create sounds that made sense to me, that seemed to gel with the music as best as possible. Of course I was way off, I didn't know how to even tune my instrument let alone play a chord or a note. For some reason, my presence was tolerated, my contributions encouraged, although I was the least accomplished musician in the bunch. We were on the cusp around this time of adding more backup vocals, and this is when I started to come out of my shell. Susan was very helpful in my development, because we filled similar roles in the band, usually flanking Robert on either side, sometimes sharing a mic, and almost always singing the same backups. So I learned to take my cues from her, to hit the notes she was hitting. It wasn't until the last few years that I learned to perform without her! I always had a bit of a tougher time learning my parts if she wasn't in the show. I wish I'd known this album better at the time, as I was first introduced to it for this show. It's now a favorite of mine, especially when I'm doing voice practice, I love singing along to "Wax Minute" and "Lazy Lady." The cacophony of my instrumentation would eventually be abandoned almost entirely in our live performances in favor of my spotlight theatrical performances, acting as Robert's foil, adding vocalizations to most numbers, and singing the occasional lead. Sometimes, the way I played my instruments would work, especially on some of our more cacophonous recordings. But given my "amateurism," it took a while for me to get the hang of making sounds that gelled well with the rest of the band. |
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Battle With The DJ 19 April, Emily Carr College of Art and Design |
Robert: Let's face it, playing for art students sucks. In this particular dark era all they wanted to hear was techno. They even asked if we had any techno!!! Julian wisely decided not to play this show. I think this was the only show he ever missed meaning that I am the only July Fourth Toilet member who has played every show! I am going to have to change all that soon and miss a show. This set we did some Yoko Ono and Jimmy Webb et al then tried jamming with a techno DJ who won due to loudness. I felt angry and frustrated this show and kicked off my white deck shoes into the air (a regular live staple of ours) which scared instructor Eric Metcalfe away, though he did enjoy himself. jody: Perhaps our worst show ever. No Julian, and somehow I ended up playing drums halfway through the set, for most of the rest of the set. I can't play drums! I am incapable of keeping a beat! It was the first, last and only time I pulled a stunt like that, but someone asked me to, I was drunk, and we were horrible. What did I have to lose? |
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Hipnotique: the Lounge Scene Prank 16 June, Blue Lizard Cabaret |
Robert: Ahhh yessss, the infamous lounge prank which we've well documented. Yes, we liked lounge music but we didn't like neo-lounge. The Jades were hired to play a Blue Lizard show so I showed up and found that they were condescending to these seniors and I just hated the whole fake snooty but really snooty vibe. At the time I wrote a regular weekly column for a free paper and in it I criticized that Blue Lizard show. Because of this they sent pissy letters (that were brilliantly self-promotional) and I became the "anti-lounge." We sent a fake demo as Hipnotique to play the Blue Lizard anniversary party.
jody: Classic prank! They were impressed by our "swingin' soundz," so they hired us on. The Blue Lizard took place in the Tiki Lounge of the Waldorf Hotel on Hastings, and they provided the bands with a couple of free rooms upstairs, and a whole lot of free booze. Robert and Julian figured that, in order for the prank to work, they'd have to be in costume the entire time before the show, so they showed up wearing masks and everything. They also didn't speak, which was super creepy. I was getting all riled up, wearing a big straw hat, cheap shades and a banana-print shirt, jumping up and down on the bed, yelling "TV out the window! TV out the window!" as I drank vodka straight from the bottle. Those old kill-joys, the Molestics, were one of the many bands on the gig, and they threatened to rat us out, and probably did, because they didn't want to get in trouble and jeopardize future gigs there because they knew who we were! We took to the stage to do some real live exotica, bird and monkey calls, whistles, the whole bit. Robert: What we did play at their show was mostly acoustic Martin Denny covers, who we really liked! I was dressed and masked from head to toe in an odd dress and wicker lampshade as Dingum Pho. I mostly just did the bird noises. They cut us off and I unmasked and - scandal! It was really July Fourth Toilet! The hostess was, needless to say, very upset, it was like we ruined her prom. I thought that we played rather well and Sue looked great as a Carmen Miranda type. Susan: I think Dingum Pho gave a lot of people the willies! And when the Betty Page wannabe said "let the audience decide," they actually did want one more song. We did a pretty decent exotica tribute, all things considered. Oh and Robert, not only did you unmask... you un-bamboo matted as well, down to the star spangled speedo! jody: I think we were just into our fifth song when they pulled the plug. Robert ripped off his mask and shouted, "I'm Robert Dayton and you all hate me!" The organizer lady had been scowling at us just seconds before the power went off, then she stood beside us on the stage with her arms folded like a cross schoolteacher until we got off the stage! Miraculously, and despite the dent I put in the booze, we got paid. Julian: I got kicked in the ribs by the sound guy as he walked by me on the stairs. To their credit though, they did pay us which I got by tracking down their money man as he was hiding out with a blue martini. |
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Knights of Pythias Bluegrass Ritual 19 June, Western Front ![]() |
Robert: I have mixed memories of this. Being a mostly acoustic set we walked our instruments over the train tracks to the venue which was nice, I remember having good talks with Shayne Ehman on the way there. Basically this was a huge evening of performance of Emily Carr grads organized by Eric Metcalfe. He rounded the peeps up and let us go. Some of the peeps got petty and blackballed Jason Mclean out of the show and catalogue because he got really sick for a while and couldn't do the elaborate murals he wanted to do. One instructor didn't understand why I wasn't doing this show as a solo performance art piece, why it was with July Fourth Toilet, but that's where my heart was at in performance.
jody: I think I was clueless as to the politics surrounding this gig, even though I accompanied Robert to one of the organizing meetings in advance of the event, the only person who wasn't an art student/faculty member in attendance. This would turn out to be just one more of those gigs in which people just didn't get who we were or what we were doing, and couldn't accept us in our own right, so we encountered all these weird reactions. Avant-garde composer Paul Plimley rehearsed with us for this show, he was going to play with us and seemed really into it, but he chickened out at the last minute, he was at the show but totally ducked us. But it seems it didn't matter where we played, an art gallery or a sleazy dive, there were always people who were so freaked out by us they either shunned us or tried to humiliate us. We always fell between the cracks. Sometimes we really dug it, reveled in being different, other times it just caused problems and annoyances. Like here: just because we added elements of surrealism, absurdity, humor, experimentation, sincerity with a low-budget, lowbrow "folk" edge, dabbling in arcane ritual, we couldn't be taken seriously as artists? Funny thing is, we were all accomplished or emerging artists, who had done, or would go on to do, some amazing things: visual artists with works hanging in galleries, performers, musicians, writers, award-winning filmmakers... folks who got Canada Council grants! We were artists, no doubt, just the wrong kind at the time, I guess. Julian: I learned four banjo chords for this gig and was completely out of the loop in regards to its politics. Robert: The Reverend Delford Brown, a long time legendary artist in his own right of which most in the room had no idea, played silly string and squeaky balloon! And Corinne who was in the audience played glockenspiel after I had asked if anyone wanted to play along. Corinne would later join us for many shows on castanets. She used to be a flamenco dancer back in the 1950s. jody: I crafted my first great, memorable costume. I made a giant red fez out of cardboard and felt, wore a puffy white pirate shirt and a pleated skirt, and some wicked shades. I played mandolin and I looked like a Turkish gangster. We played in a circle in the middle of the room, with people all around us, with us facing outward in all directions. It was a little hard at times to hear what people behind me were playing. But we worked up a good stone groove, Daddy. When the room began to clear out, we decided to just chase the rest of the people out, shut the door, and keep playing for ourselves. Robert: We weren't treated well, more like after show entertainment which meant that we didn't get documented like everyone else. It was an artist run centre and so the "document everything" mantra was in full effect; a big dangling carrot was that we'd be documented with professional high quality video, we were the only act that night that wasn't. Why? Because the people documenting the evening didn't want to document us. Artists and Christians will always find a way to renege on things. And some previous performers (who've long since apologized for it btw) just wandered onstage while we were performing to get photos taken for their catalogue et al. However, I was performing a ritual and didn't want anyone to leave, these asses left anyways even though they didn't leave for the other performances. The door must remain shut! The space used to be a Knights Of Pythias hall, a secret society like the Elks or Kinsmen. We used many of their slogans in our songs to make bluegrass ritual music. I tried to find the spirits of the room but found nothing. No one answered my calls. I have never had a good experience playing The Western Front. The Western Front Research Library: One Fine Evening At The Western Front: An Overdetermined Narrative. Content Description: An Evening of performance by Emily Carr Institute of Art graduates. Hosted by Eric Metcalfe. Robert Dayton's July Fourth Toilet is missing. |
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Southern Rock 28 July, the Columbia w/ The Molestics and Reverend Robert Delford Brown ![]() |
Robert: The Good Reverend didn't show up for this, I never saw him again. Too bad, he was great! We did pure Southern Boogie with my brother Frank on guitar. This was where songs like "Kentucky Whore" first got their start. The Columbia was one of those shitty dive bar places that was turning into an original rock club: perfect for our kind of set. jody had a ridiculous white beard on. Jay looked sexy in tight jeans and leopard print top. Frank and I guzzled lots of Jack. Daniels, that is. On the dance floor I danced with a lady who could barely walk. Pretty fun.
jody: I really put one over on some of the drunks in the audience that night. Frank was playing lead guitar, all these hot rock licks. But he was at the back of the stage in the corner, I was right out front in costume, hamming it up. I had an electric guitar, sure, but it wasn't even plugged in! I played air guitar, and people thought I was the dude rockin' them out! It was great! I was ZZ Top all the way, man. The material was a lot of fun to learn, practice and finally perform: we did, among other covers, "Down By The Lazy River" by the Osmonds, "La Grange" by ZZ Top and "Slow Ride" by Foghat! We also rocked a lot of new originals, a couple of which have finally been laid down in the studio, and can be heard on our forthcoming Balls Boogie album, which is basically an extension of a tradition we began with this show. Julian: With Frank on guitar, I sat in on drums and played the only three beats I know: rock, funk and drum rolls. The Osmonds can be credited with three really excellent songs: "One Bad Apple," "Down By The Lazy River" and "Crazy Horses" (covered by Redd Kross years ago). |
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Rough and Ruined Feast Film Festival 09 August, @ Gallery ![]() |
Robert: This was a catastrophe! Put on by Alex from the Blinding Light, an amazing fella. Anyways, Julian was not going to play guitar this evening, he was going to do live scratch animation projected on to us! Great! Andre was going to be band leader. The day of the show both Andre and Mark caught a horrible flu (they lived together! So as a huge favour Kleinz of Sister Lovers stepped in and learned the set in half an hour. We wore white for the projections, I wore a big white sheet like Mike Love on the Beach Boys Sunflower album. Then a fight broke out between two guys who broke the projector before Julian could even project. This show did not go well at all. Peter Thompson of The All Star Schnauzer Band guested though and looked great in a super villain outfit that I think Jason Mclean built. He kidnapped me, tied me up and sang the rest of the set. jody: There was a lot of chaos and confusion going on, and for some reason Kleinz and I found ourselves leading off the start of the show without Robert and Julian to be found. We started off with me singing "Who Loves The Sun" at Kleinz's suggestion, figuring that would be the only thing we might both know that wasn't on the set list. "Buh buh buh buh, who loves the sun." Vague memories of the rest of the show: Peter dancing around in underwear, singing "I'm the bad guy! I'm the bad guy!" and this looping film Julian kept playing of Big Bird in a birthday party hat running around in circles. Julian: I had two projectors: one 16mm and one super 8. Just as I got the 16mm rolling two dudes got into a fight and knocked it over, sending my equipment to the floor. I was able to get the Super 8 rolling, but the image was small and featured a loop of Big Bird partying. Thanks for reminding me of that, jody. |
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Shayne's Farewell 18 August, Grandview Cut railroad tracks ![]() |
Robert: This was awesome! We went down to the train tracks and played in the mid afternoon. Maybe inspired by our walk across the tracks to the bad Western Front show. We have audio of this somewhere! Where is it? I want to hear it! We played "Mystery Train" as the train went by obliterating all sound except its own, the conductor smiled and waved, we hooted and waved back as its sound faded away amidst our playing. That was truly a beautiful day and it was sad to say good-bye to Shayne but hopefully we gave him a good send off. Julian: It was nice. I don't think you can go down to that location anymore since they built the Millennium Line. There used to be statue of Christopher Columbus at the entrance. He was portrayed as a fey and innocent skinny teenager sitting pretty on a rock and dreaming the world is round. Nearby was the SPCA Thrift Store where Cynarra and I spray painted a giant JULY FOURTH TOILET on the back wall which could be seen as you rode the train from Broadway to Main. Evan Symons: This show was great fun. I believe James Dean the Fourth and I made up at least half the audience. jody: My girlfriend didn't want me to go because she said it was illegal to go down there, and I could get arrested! We had a big fight about it, and I caved in. I felt sheepish telling the band I couldn't play. |
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Murder Ballads: Halloween Oct. 25, The Columbia w/ London, Paris and +Bold axis Arms- |
Robert: London, Paris was Brian and Bunny Ruryk's amazing noise rock skronk falsetto beller duo. +Bold Axis Arms- was Josh Stevenson's solo noise act. What a great bill! I was an emotional mess at this time going through a break up with Kim, my first serious girlfriend. We did a lot of murder ballads including "Pretty Polly" that we played Doug Dillard's morbidly spoken intro on a Dillards album into the mic. This song caused me to start seriously crying. We then did "Hickory Wind" and "Monster Mash" five times over as that's what Bobby "Boris" Pickett did at Gram Parsons' wake fundraiser. Also did a long free form chanting improvised music piece where I circled the room with a huge stick; during this intensity the bartender went up to the mic to announce, "last call for alcohol! Last call for alcohol!" jody: I remember doing "Grave On The Green Hillside" especially, because I've always been a huge Carter Family fan (the only box set I own is the Carter Family box set!) And I remember Robert crying. After the show, Julian asked me why Robert was crying, and I said I thought it was because of his problems with Kim, and he said, "are you sure it's not because of the songs being about murder?" When Julian asked Robert in front of me, he started blubbering, "those songs are so hard to sing!" Julian: Those songs are quite creepy indeed. I was wearing a mask and played banjo with a tinny contact mic that gave it a hollow, echoing sound. Breaking up is hard to do, especially if you're singing hillbilly songs about murdering your girlfriend. jody: We also ran into problems with The Man that night that just tells you what a shithole the Downtown Eastside can be, and I feel so sorry for the poor and marginalized people who have to live in this environment every day. A sour, fat cop threatened me when I was loading gear into my car because he didn't want to drive around me: "Move your ass NOW or I'll move your ass down to the station!" The next day, I heard that our two good friends, supporters and sometimes collaborators, Kleinz and Tim, who were in the audience that night, were brutalized and choked by a couple of cops down on Hastings Street when they were play fighting near a bank machine. Kleinz is now a man of the cloth, Tim is now a lawyer, and I wonder if they'd get the same treatment from the pigs now? Probably, as these were the same fuckers who let a serial killer stalk the DTES for years, murdering young First Nations women. Thinking about that night, what we were doing on stage, in that environment, sends a chill up my spine. |
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Their Satanic Majesties Request 15 November, Vancouver Press Club w/ Messy Tones ![]() ![]() |
Robert: I loved this show! We did The Rolling Stones Their Satanic Majesties Request from start to finish. It turned out well.
jody: Such fun songs to sing and play! Especially "She's A Rainbow" and "Sing This Song Together," both songs we subsequently resurrected for other shows. Well, "Sing This Song..." was something we'd already played before, and may have inspired us to do this entire album.
Julian: I will always have fond memories of "She's a Rainbow." I remember Robert singing it with cub on New Year's back in 93 or 94. Susan: This is a fave. I was living on Saltspring at the time so this was one of the few shows I made it to. Robert: We had a huge fake joint that we passed around. Someone set it on fire. Susan: Pete Bastard lit the joint. The costumes were great. At one point Robert was whipping his mic cable up in the air and it caught on the ceiling fan - I don't think it was spinning at the time - but Robert just kept on singing, unfazed, as he manoeuvered the cord back down. Robert: I asked how much time we had left. The frantic bitchy bar manager yelled, "you are done!" So we played "We Love You" as a final song. She desperately tried to find the power to shut us down. She finally did but our set was done. I told the band that set this up, Messy Tones, that our insanity would be tough to follow, I tried not to sound all ego-ish as they were really good yet mellow, we were carnage and when we finished and they saw fake joint ashes they understood. |
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A Strathcona Party Of Music And Haircuts 18 January, 773 East Pender ![]() |
Julian: Jeeziz! I don't remember this at all. Might I have missed two Toilet shows then? Robert: This was an All Star Schnauzer Production. Yes, haircuts were given. We played "Baby Please Don't Go," "Southern Nights," "A Man And A Woman." I think the theme was for me to sing in a foreign tongue. I jumped on jody's back and tried to get him to carry me for as long as possible. jody: This took place in the cramped, damp basement where Jason and Max lived, possibly the smallest "venue" we've ever played, really claustrophobic. The greatest thing about those old Strathcona houses is that they really contained the noise, so anytime I ever went to some wild house party in the 'hood, I'd never know it was wild from the outside because I couldn't hear a thing. I guess it must be the wood they used. Apparently, at this gig, there were acts on before us, but I didn't hear a thing because I was upstairs. I don't really remember much about it, except for, when we were learning "Southern Nights," Max played for us the original Allen Toussaint version, and I was so surprised at its lush, mellow, N' Awlins vibe; up to that point, I'd only ever heard Glenn Campbell's rollicking country-rock version. And Robert riding my back, that probably blurs in with all incidents of a similar nature: whenever Robert needs to get physical, and needs someone to play off, well, I'm the guy. He rides my back, he sticks his disgusting dirty fingers in my mouth, he pulls me down to the floor, he wrestles me, he grabs my head. I don't remember exactly when this practice started, but, hell, it works out well for us, we seem to be able to play off each other physically very well. I like it when I get to play the top, a deity like the Sun King or Satan, who gets to physically abuse him for a change. |
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Playing For All Star Schnauzer Band date unknown, ANZA Club w/ The Molestics |
Robert: We decided to play for The All Star Schnauzer Band as they never seem to be able to play shows. I think there was a golf injury or something. The Molestics were having a CD launch put on by The Blue Lizard and they didn't know we were going to play and didn't want us to. We almost didn't as Jay and I were busy drinking in the basement bar and almost missed the show. I wore leather pants and suspenders. We sang a "Stairway to Heaven" based number called "Goddamn You All" and I did a lot of Bob Wills style "ah-has" as I writhed on the stage with Jay who wore a skimpy outfit and a weird child's Halloween mask! Someone in the crowd said, "Is this The Molestics? They're quite good!"
jody: The Molestics were really uptight, didn't seem to have much sense of humor when it came to pranks. They sabotaged us at the Blue Lizard, and they seemed unimpressed on this night, as well. I don't wish to bad-mouth them, they all seemed to be nice enough guys, they were excellent musicians, had a great schtick, fun to dance to, and we seemed to be a good fit on bills together. But I think they were trying to make a living doing their thing, and I guess our antics were a little too "out there" for them, they must've figured they'd be found guilty by association. So I think this was effectively the end of our professional relationship with them. Julian: I think at this point I had quit smoking cigarettes and replaced that with pot coz I remember being on stage but not one song comes to mind. I don’t smoke pot no more. The drinking has become a bit of a problem though. |
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Sandi Kilby's Tax Party date unknown |
Robert: In Sandi Kilby's back yard she burned all her old tax receipts as a spiritual act. We played "Tax Man" and another song or two. Julian: This confirms my previous marijuana statement. I was in Sandi’s living room rolling a fatty of Galiano Gold (actually shitty shake) and Zumpano coined another nickname for me: Johnny Potseed. Neither of these nicknames stuck mind you. Sandi had an amazing collection of K-Tel records. I think she told me she had them all, but I did point out that Rock Fantasy was missing and she had never heard of it. |
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Easter Set April, The Niagara w/ The Loved One and the Cowards |
Evan Symons: I remember that Robert was truly scaring some uninitiated people in the audience that night with his drunken antics. Robert: Third and last time at The Niagara. I got pretty hammered this set drinking Jim Beam straight out of the bottle. Apparently at one point I puked off the side of the stage. This was a great set though and wish there was a document of it! We opened with a celebrity roast for Jesus. Jay was dressed provocatively as Mary Magdalene with a large dragon tattoo across her chest and a barely covering vest. Then I came out in a colourful bunny suit that Jason McLean and his future wife Heather made for me. We did all bunny songs from a bunny kids' album I had: "Peter Cottontail" and "The Bunny Hop" (which I got the crowd to do); a swack of originals lost to time including one called "Night of the Lepus," and another about shitting out eggs. I tried to fight a large biker but he just kept laughing jovially as I tried punching him. I was so drunk that I thought I was still performing when the next band came on, the singer back flipped me on to the monitors. I lay still for a minute. Jason thought that I was dead. I got up and only my back was severely gashed. The headliner took all the other bands' cash and spent it on crack. |
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Commercial Drive Tribute April, Music Waste Festival, Cafe Deux Soleils w/ Destroyer and the Power Failures |
Robert: Destroyer opened this show solo acoustic as I really liked the guy and his music! The Power Failures had Hamm as a member who would later join us!
Commercial Drive was a street that had a great many hippies and as we were playing on the drive it was apropos. Some people actually thought we were hippies. Jay and Susan looked very unsexy in their Guatemalan print dresses, they sang some awful hippy folk song. I wore hemp clothes and a home made brillo pad and dirt dread lock wig. My tone was passive-aggressive misogynist. Josh played on this set. Julian was drenched in patchouli and put patchouli on each table lamp. jody had a black Ginsberg wig and bald cap, we opened with him standing with tofu in both hands chanting "the tofu of love, dear children, the tofu of looovvve."
Julian: The venue’s other nick name (why am I remembering all these nicknames?) was The Egg Barn. Jen (Kreviss, Tonics) was mad because patchouli was being sprayed into the audience from the stage and it got all over her vintage dress. jody: This was a fun show. I especially liked throwing icky tofu all over the place. And I couldn't believe how much dirt Robert dumped in his wig, and how awful Julian smelled! Such realism! Clancy was our drummer, and, man, the guy makes the best-looking hippy: very minimalist, but effective. Robert: We started a drum circle in the crowd. Originals included "Dream Catcher" and "Single Mom Cafe" (the nick name of the venue), which was a rocker that went, "single mom cafe, going all the way, can I have a cup of coffee?" We covered "LA Woman," as there was a clothing store on The Drive with that name run by a middle aged woman with large peroxide hair and a cigarette. jody: I really hate the Doors, but "LA Woman" is a great song to play, we can really make it big and then drive it into the ground. This number has been revived in other gigs. |
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Rock N Roll Revival Part One: The Medley 05 June, the Columbia w/ Lake of Dracula |
Robert: Lake Of Dracula was a Chicago rock band with Marlon Magas and Weasel Walter who seemed to like our set though it went badly. I was intent on doing a Rock N Roll revival series, this one being Part One focused on the rock medley. I adopted a grumpy Don Ho-like "been doing these songs too long" old entertainer persona who, when people applauded near the beginning, said, "please hold your applause until the end of the set." Forty-five minutes later! Our originals and Roy Wood medley went well but the twenty minutes of late era Beatles covers was absolutely horrible. The hipsters sure hated us that night. jody: Bah. The hipsters hate everything, why should this be any different? The Beatles medley was tough, it seemed to change up so quickly, and the sound wasn't that great, so I kept losing my place, I'd be on a completely different song snippet than the rest of the band. At times we might've all been working different song snippets, and the only thing we had to go by was our set list sheets on the floor. I thought it was kind of cool, because we'd fall off into this cacophony, yet Julian's guitar kept driving us along, so we'd gel together around it again, fall apart again, come together, lather, rinse, repeat. This is one of the things I think sets us apart from other groups: our mixture of craftsmanship and amateurism, combined with sincerity and a sense of humor, gives us this kind of dualistic edge, like our music is always struggling with itself, trying to get out. It's catchy, melodic yet sometimes obscured by noise or gaffes, but I think this is part of what gives us our magical quality. Julian: We shoulda done a Monkees medley. Or perhaps a Bill Medley medley. |
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Your Poems Set To Music 13 June, Poop Palace, Portland w/ Three Day Stubble |
Robert: Our first tour! And only tour! Though I'd surely tour us again gladly! This was fun!
jody: Driving to Portland, I saw a nuclear power plant for the first time in my life. We stayed with Jeff Fuccillo of Union Pole records and the Irving Klaw Trio, he was a very nice host. Robert: We did "Your Poems Set To Music" set at the Poop Palace, a crazy junkyard run by Jody of Monotrona! Some scraggly older guy kept drunkenly yelling at us to play "O Canada." So we did. He was oblivious, he yelled, "just play the goddamn anthem four-eyes!" I found out later that this guy was one of my writing heroes: Richard Meltzer! And I never got to meet him! But he heckled us! Don Bolles of 3 Day Stubble was angry with us because we played too long and his friend Richard Meltzer left before he saw Don play. However, it was Don's bandmates who kept on writing poems for us to turn into songs. The guys from Smegma said to me during 3 Day Stubble's set, "I love these guys. They're like Richard Simmons meets Can." jody: Our other "famous" fan at this show was Jaina Davis of Flatter! zine, who randomly punctuated our set with piercing screeches (her form of appreciation) Stubble's Donald the Nut has the greatest hair in the world, big and poofy tangled and way out, I don't know how he managed it. After the show, we had a barbeque in the trunk of an old car in the junkyard, and Julian and I found a Ouija board in one of the junk piles.
Julian: All I can say is stay away from the Ouija board, kids.
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music for emo kids 14 June, Arrowspace Gallery, Olympia w/ Three Day Stubble |
Robert: Night two. Arrington of Old Time Relijun put this show on, it was sparse but fun. All of us did go skinny dipping in a lake Arrington took us to. I traveled with Stubble a bit as I was a bit of a grump and the rest of J4T couldn't take me.
jody: Arrington was an excellent host. Before the show, I got to hang out with a couple of the Stubbles and their roadie Matt Kelly of Cool Beans! zine. We saw two groups of rowdy teens yelling "aloha bitches!" back and forth at each other.
Julian: We were billed as “July Four Toilets” which made us sound like a Native American group (think Redbone). Somehow we lost track of Mark’s new video camera, so one of the emo kids musta swiped it. Tragic. Robert: We did our medley set but without the annoying Beatles medley. jody: This was one of those shows in which the performers outnumbered the audience. I noticed a kid leaving halfway through our set, so I ran after him. I caught him halfway down the stairs: "Hey! Where are you going! We're still playing!" He was on acid, I guess, so he just kind of quietly turned around, came back up the stairs and watched the rest of the show. This was my favorite of the Stubble performances, especially when they did "I Wish I Can Fly," and Donald the Nut danced around like a birdy. |
| One Day 15 June, Crocodile Cafe, Seattle w/ Three Day Stubble and Sun City Girls ![]() |
jody: For some reason, we all went topless for this one, perhaps in solidarity with our almost bare-chested female members? Susan: Wow! that was a stunning show, the audience were rapt. Jay and I wore pasties, hers were fancy real ones and mine were made from American flag stickers, worn with red leather motocross pants. But I think it was the music that held the audiences attention... jody: Yeah, the music, not the boobies and hairy backs. To me, it was one of our shining moments when we closed with our "One Day..." singalong/circle dance in the audience. It was difficult enough thinking we could hold our own opening for Stubble, but for Stubble and the Sun City Girls? We did admirably, methinks. Robert: This was great! To play with Sun City Girls to an enthusiastic crowd! Sun City Girls fans in Vancouver are uptight frowning snobs but everywhere else they have so much fun! And our sound was really good this night, it was a great show. I seem to remember, since we were first, people calling each other in to see us and we ended with the whole crowd on "One Day..." jody: I was chatting with the Sun City Girls after the show, and I asked what they thought of our performance. One of them said (and I can't remember who), "as soon as I saw you up there, I thought 'Tubes 77.'" He chuckled. I chuckled. I told Robert about this comment later. He said, "I have no idea what that means." I didn't, either, and I still don't. Julian: ‘Tubes 77. You know… the Tubes… in 1977 (they’re fairly horrible so it mighta been a dis). They were guests on SCTV once. Which reminds me of a sad story in the news recently. SCTV alumnus Tony Rosato (who went on to do a season of SNL before returning to Canada a.k.a. obscurity) is in jail (but he should be in the loony bin) because he thinks his wife and daughter have been replaced with impostors, just like Invasion of the Body Snatchers. This is a real mental illness called Capgras syndrome. Robert: It was great to meet The Sun City Girls, an act that like 3 Day Stubble and Zip Code Rapists inspire so much! |
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Good Jacket 6 Month Anniversary Saturday, 28 June, 42 Kingsway w/ Pigs In Space and the Shitcookies |
Robert: The Good Jacket was this legendary vintage clothing store that held legendary shows, a real great time for Vancouver music.
This show was odd. Corinne played castanets. There was some sort of theme. I was in a working girl outfit explaining it as the masculinization of woman in the workplace. This was at the end of a long dark hallway with a single light and we had a small line up of band members for this due to tour burn out. Evan Symons: I remember that Robert was truly scaring some uninitiated people in the audience that night with his drunken antics. Julian: I’ll repeat what Evan has said twice already: I remember that Robert was truly scaring some uninitiated people in the audience that night with his drunken antics. I did the poster for this and Sean gave me a real swell Fisher Price Theatre with which to view my cartridges. This was a toy created in the early ‘70s (before home video) where you could view 2 minute loops of super eight film featuring Mickey, Big Bird, the Six Million Dollar Man, etc. By slipping the cartridge in (kinda like an eight track but with film) and cranking the handle, you can watch the film on a little screen. The beauty of this toy is that you can go as fast or as slow as you like, backwards, forwards and it provides a great lesson in animation for budding cartoonists. |
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2024 East First House w/ Daddy's Hands and Ersatz |
Robert: Julian's son Nemo played keyboards. We did some Buffy Sainte-Marie covers. This was a legendary house that a zine has been written about. It was the Submission Hold house that had a lot of legendary shows in their basement. The kids were so-so on us cuz we didn't really rock the whole time. I remember an image of Emily of the band Daddy's Hands sitting up in a tree, I really liked that gal, it's really horrible that she died because she glowed. Dave of Daddy's Hands wore an odd face mask while playing. jody: There was an outdoor potluck going on with all these punk kids. Good little show, nice vibe, and I really loved doing the Buffy songs, I'm a huge fan of hers. Julian: We were paid $6.66 as our portion of the door, which was given to Nemo. Didn’t another Daddy’s Hands member pass on recently? |
| Love Jam Rehearsal/Your Name Songs Tuesday, 21 October, Pofi Bar w/ Josh Stevenson ![]() |
Robert: We just set up at this weird cafe and played ideas we were fleshing out for our first album and ran them by the crowd. It was loose. Free show. Our second set consisted of making up songs about each person in the audience and it was very high energy. The barrista loved us, thought we were like Jim O'Rourke and gave us beer.
Julian: In homage to Crispin Glover, Robert kicked his lethally heeled shoes up in the air and miraculously missed injuring any of the coffee crowd. |
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Rock N Roll Revival Part Two 13 November, the Brickyard w/ Laura Jane Culhane |
Robert: Okay. I am not sure if this was the right show for this date. But if I presume correctly we did two sets. Opener Laura Jane Culhane was something else, synthy act with songs about being a night owl, hoot hoooot. Did Troy the Puppet Man open? He was a fella in a motorized wheel chair who did puppetry to improve his speaking after a bad accident. Really nice guy and he still does puppets. I think Julian and Andre played behind him as he told an odd very Christian story. jody: Well, if this is the right show, then this is the night I did my infamous "stand-up comedy" act, my first ever solo performance. I hate stand-up comedy, and I wanted to be as awful as possible: transgressive, offensive, bad timing, faux drunk. Johnny "Boney" Maroni was my persona: jokes about dead babies, kicking hippies begging for change, fat ugly wives. The room was packed. I didn't hear anybody laughing, except for my friend Ted (of Young & Sexy and Destroyer), who let out these very loud, shocked laughs, like "oh hey hey hey!" Some bike courier charged the stage and threatened to beat me up, and had to be restrained by his friends. So I told him I went to his house the night before, fucked his mother and father and dog, slit all their throats and ate them. He went apeshit! I felt bad after the show for assaulting my audience with such ugliness for ten minutes. I think I damaged my relationship with Troy, he seemed truly shocked by my act. I had developed a friendly relationship with him over the years, I always stopped and chatted with him when he was doing his act on the street, gave him spare change if I had any. I'm not sure why I did this thing, I guess I felt the need to expose an uglier, darker side, as I've always been known as a nice guy. I tried to date Laura Jane Culhane a week later, but we had little more than an awkward half hour conversation over tea at a cafe. Julian: Troy is a wonderful human being, but the irony remains that he is ventriloquist with a speech impediment. I laughed during jody’s performance. It was truly frightening/funny. At one point he yelled into the mic so loud it reached tones I’ve never experienced before or after. Robert: One of our original songs where I was in a flower outfit that Jason McLean loaned me and another where I played an old bar rock legend named Randy Vowels back on stage after many years, for this we did a lot of bar rock classics like "Proud Mary." I played lead guitar. I do not know how to play lead guitar. At all. |
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Satan
date unknown, the Brickyard ![]() |
Robert: Jason Mclean made jody a Satan costume with a long dong.
jody: What I recall most about this show was going over to Jason's house to get fitted for the costume, and having a big discussion about the size of Satan's cock. We knew it had to be the BIGGEST. Julian: If Satan can be recognized by the enormous size of his dong, then I reckon Robert is Satan. Robert: We did a Satanic ritual. Jay looked great in long red wig. I was in a black suit with red dress shirt. Lots of candle wax. Such songs as "Come To the Sabbat" and the Fugs' "I Command the House Of The Devil" (Shayne suggested this one, I wish we had recorded it). jody: I became one with the Dark Lord, I channeled Him and cast a spell over all. Our Satanic ritual invocation must have worked well, because we seem to have collective amnesia about this show: when was it? What exactly happened? We know Satan appeared, but then what? There is at least one existing photograph, so it DID happen. Robert: I remember there were these girls from Portland that seemed interested in me then told me to come to their hotel where they didn't answer their buzzer. Hmm. jody: Sorry, it was the work of Satan. |
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Six Hour Set
Wednesday 04 March, Vancouver Press Club ![]() |
jody: Some of the shows we would play, I would just get so euphoric, I just never wanted to stop playing, and I really couldn't understand why we always had to. Especially when we would build and build to a big ending: the bigger the ending, the more I wanted to drag it out, the less I wanted it to end. Everybody else seemed to like to cut songs off at five, ten minutes, but not me! So I said, and I just pulled this out of my ass, mind you, "why don't we play a six hour show?" Totally arbitrary length, of course, but the band went for it! I was ecstatic! Of course, it proved trickier than I thought...
Robert: We started this non-stop entainment at 6:30 PM and ended at 12:30 PM. We told people to show up after they were done eating supper. Press release: "This time they'll be filling 6 hours up to the brim with various special guest appearances (George of The Jades! Ben from the Pig and Whistle pub! Evan Symons! Gordie Walker of The Gordie Walker Band almost made it down) and activities that include 30 second songs, 'Your Poems Set To Music' and hockey chants. They'll also be moving through their unique stew of musical styles such as acid folk, honky tonk stumble, raw sweat ballistics boogie, synthesized organ matter, cult murder accapella, and pop music balladry. In other words 'Something For Everyone.' Playing for such a long time isn't so new. Just ask Bruce Springsteen, LaMonte Young, the Holy Modal Rounders, Wagner or The Allmans. It's just that sometimes it's the only way to fit everything in whilst going places (transgression to reach mad-near-blindness zone). And no, no one is expected to stay the whole time." Robert: But people did! Well, artist Owen Plummer did. The thing built and built until I drank my own pee and collapsed. jody: Owen is one of our special super fans. He sat there in the same spot all night, doodling while we played. Nobody stayed onstage for the entire six hours, of course, as band members would randomly walk off to go pee, get a beer, change costumes, visit friends. But we kept 'er going. Oh, yeah... we were on the Nardwuar the Human Serviette radio show on CITR to promote our tenth anniversary Rock Fantasy show six years after the fact. The rest of the band was down at the station, I had to phone in. Every time I spoke, or every time Nardwuar asked me a question, he kept asking me over and over again, "jody franklin of July Fourth Toilet, is it true that Robert Dayton drank his own piss during your six-hour show?" I kept trying to deflect the question. He eventually hung up on me for being non-responsive. I honestly have no recollection of Robert drinking pee. I think it's an urban legend he's perpetuating himself. Evan: Robert really did pee into a beer jug and drink it. The funny thing was that almost everyone had left and I kept thinking that I was the only one besides the band that even noticed the monumental event. I was the roadie for this show, so I was there for the whole thing. Julian: A local rag called The Commercial Drive reviewed the show and called us "The World’s Worst Act." jody: Shortly after this gig, I moved away from Vancouver for a year. This was my second lengthy hiatus. |
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Rock N Roll Revival Part Three: Dance Party
08 May, Columbia Hotel w/ The New Pornographers and The Lindsay Davis Story ![]() |
Julian: The Columbia had a great mural behind the stage. It was a fairly realistic/naïve painting of a dozen Marshall amplifiers with smoke blowing out of them. The name Robert devised for his character was "Porks" Parcheesi, a play on the names of two other singers from that dance tune era: "Chubby" Checker and "Fats" Domino. Brilliant!
Robert: This was quite a Good One! I took on the persona of a Little Richard type where I was enthused to be endlessly performing my songs for decades! I talked about being 63 and drinking orange juice to be spry! First and last appearance of The New Toilettes as backup singers. We did seven variations on "The Twist," including an original called "The Twist Gets Married" and other originals such as "(Flush Flush Flush) Do The Toilet" and one for Generation X called "Do The X." We had a dance contest where a gold pair of sneakers was the prize. Clancy: I coulda toured with this act for years and never tire of it. Robert: The New Pornographers were a new super group who wanted us on the bill though some members seemed rather aloof. Julian: Some jaded punk had this to say about the New Pornographers: "nouveau waveau." They do supply excellent TV jingles for CBC radio and TV, though. |
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Friday 15 May, The Space w/ Dixie's Death Pool and Daddy's Hands ![]() |
Julian: The Space was a scary place on Hastings in the Downtown Eastside. Dark, dirty and smelling of pee. Great spot to take the kids. It didn’t last long, but what does in Vancouver (besides J4T)?
Robert: I don't remember the theme. I wrecked my leather pants. Julian's son Nemo played keyboards because it was all ages. Lee Hutzulak designed a fancy poster. Our second show with Daddy's Hands, an act that went through tragedy, both of the main members died young and self destructively. |
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Scrambled Brains Video Promo
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Robert: It was me, Julian and Mark Gabriel in this tripped out promo for the Scrambled Brains cookbook by Pierre LeBlanc and Robin Konstabaris (two of the New Toilettes!): hallucinatory effects, Julian in a clown mask, me bellering “White rabbit!White rabbit! White rabbit!”
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Rock And Roll Carnage Friday 13 Novevmber, the Columbia w/ The Jades |
Robert: Whooo boy. That was nuts! All songs with the word "rock" in the title. I rode a large inflatable Corona bottle. I yelled such things at the crowd as, "somebody get me a drink. Fuck you too, buddy. Who wants to rock?" Sean of the Good Jacket loaned me a long-tassled stars and stripes leather vest. I was wondering what happened to it when I saw Nardwuar wear it recently during an Evaporators show.
During this show I doffed everything which scared Corinne who said she never wanted to play castanets with us again. Luckily she forgave me. Julian: A-Maze-Ing. Robert’s streak through the Columbia was captured on video with some slo-mo effect in place and it looks totally hilarious. I think he sliced his feet open on broken glass. Why Corinne and George never hooked up is beyond me.
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Love And Apologies 13 February, the Columbia w/ the Jades and Old Time Relijun ![]() |
Robert: Marc Bell and I made some great fliers for this. Old Time Relijun was on tour and stayed where I lived. The drummer Phil (who I kept calling Jim by accident) formed an act called The Microphones, he was a weirdly aloof guy, not too friendly. Was Shayne still in the band or had he left at this point? For this set I owed the audience an apology for our last show! I played a tape of myself being horrible. Then apologized. I asked who didn't have a date for Valentine's Day. Evan Symons raised his hand. So we put him up at a table onstage, gave him a corsage, a fruit basket, and a glass of red wine. Lots of ballads. It was a lovely show. Evan Symons: This was probably my favorite July Fourth Toilet show even without the corsage. Very nice work! jody: I spent a year traveling, and was visiting my parents in Alberta when I heard about this gig coming up. I wanted to move back to Vancouver and had some business to take care of, so I flew in from Edmonton the weekend of this gig and played! A lot of people were surprised to see me, and I took on this jet-set air, told them, "oh, I flew in for this show." |
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Blinding Light! home movie date unknown |
Robert: This was some sort of Blinding Light! Cinema evening. Most of the band couldn't make it for some reason so Greg Rentz played drums on his one and only show with us. Mark Gabriel, Julian and myself also played. We did Phil Harris' "The Thing" like I used to see as a boy in a church variety show where "The Thing" was a mirror in a box! We then improvised along to a way too long old home movie that Julian found. It was in a way too hot theatre.
Julian: Phil Harris was the voice of Baloo the Bear in Jungle Book. He was Jack Benny’s singer for a while and even had his own Phil Harris radio show in the 1940s. The home movie was from 1948 and I got it at the Red Barn Flea Market on Terminal. I think it was 15 minutes long. |
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jody's Back!
22 May, Ms. T's Cabaret w/ Vancouver Nights and El Theatro Sinestro ![]() |
Robert: Ms T's was a great little gay bar with curtains and an anything goes atmosphere. It was a bright time for Vancouver music, lots of experimentation in the scene and enthusiastic crowds who'd come down to see shows no matter what it was! Too bad it burned down due to an upstairs tenants stupid ass pot oil making. The Drippy Gazette was a newspaper that Julian and I created with Lester as layout guy. It was a great paper and an awesome time in Vancouver, all not to last. We had an ad rep and terrible business sense. She asked us to make this show a benefit after it was set up with all the bands which I wasn't into doing but did.
Julian: The poster was nice: A rear shot of jody looking over his shoulder at the viewer. jody’s back.
Robert: jody had left the band for a while due to moving out of town and now he was back so we did a huge chanting ritual welcoming his return. We brought him in on a platform of candles. He then slowly rose and did a wild intense shambolic dance of ritualistic frenzy. We also had a psalm for the audience to read. Very intense. A truly amazing twenty minute opener. The rest of the set was lackluster though: pulling makeshift song titles out of a hat, improvised songs. Clancy: One of our best moments on film! jody: I was a student of shamanism at the time, investigating both experientially and anthropologically various initiatic and mystical traditions. It had been a time of great transformation in my life, and I think this entire show, even the whole concept behind it, which I think originated with Clancy, was a testament to this fact, and I felt quite honored. So my performance this night merged elements of shamanic initiation with the kind of experimental music and humor that we were known for. We pulled this show off, and many like it, because we are sincere, and we can sincerely blend elements that are both serious and absurd, and to me, this was one of the shows that showcased that in a big way. It was powerful for the band, the audience, and for me because it was somewhat of a mystical experience: the way we ritualized the opening with chants and raising me from the dead, and the way I reached down deep inside and touched upon something I never had before. I really tranced out! I rose from the slab surrounded by candles, dropped my robe, and, clad only in a loin cloth and war paint, I shrieked and jumped down into the audience and did a freakout of a dance, casting a spell over the audience as the band played on behind me. Then, a poem was passed out and recited, and everyone in the audience was instructed to come up and hug me. And they did! It was beautiful. While the rest of the set started up, I went backstage to change, and I was spent. I was crying, I was in tears. I really put out. When I've had the opportunity in shows since this one, I've tried to tap into that same spirit and enrgy, and when I do, it always makes for a better show. |
| Davy Jones Texas Chainsaw Massacre Saturday 07 August, Piccadilly Pub w/ Flash Bastard and The Radio ![]() |
Robert: This was Rock N Roll Revival Part Four! Seeing a former teen idol turn into a monster! I did Davy Jones in a home made Leatherface mask. All Davy Jones songs! Kleinz (Jungle, Sister Lovers), a massive Monkees fan (he owned Peter Tork's shirt from the movie Head) played Acetone and coached me on doing Davy. Andre and I recorded sounds of chainsaws and screaming from Texas Chainsaw Massacre for the background. It was a magical night and Kleinz said this more than made up for the last time he played with us. The Radio are an odd psych pop act that sings in a multitude of languages and still around!
Julian: Wasn’t this a Drippy benefit too? We even did a tune Davy wrote himself on the last Monkees album (1996's Just Us): "It's Not Too Late (To Turn This Ship Around)."
jody: We had the unique privilege of having Flash Bastard open for us... immediately after they got kicked off the Scorpions/Motley Crue tour! They had been scheduled to open for them to a hometown stadium crowd at GM Place, but they had some problems with the Scorpions, aging dinosaurs who just couldn't handle the younger guys' glam rock style on and off stage. So they came back home and played a show with us, their friends, in front of their truest fans. It was an electric night, fun for everybody. Clancy: I often lack comprehension of Robert's conceptual frameworks for his post-modern re-envisioning of pop culture iconography. But this show I fucking GOT! And it rocked! |
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July Fourth Toilet Makes Pretty Pictures For You 02 October-20 November, Helen Pitt Gallery ![]() |
Robert: We set up all our July Fourth Toilet related art in this bathroom art show!!! Lots of drawings, even some nice Peter Thompson July Fourth Toilet hot rod drawings and ephemera. The night of the opening Jay McLaughlin was also doing a solo performance. jody: Clancy and I spent two months on the road that summer shooting a documentary in Manitoba about the dying family farm. When we returned, we were pleasantly surprised to see the moose postcard we sent the band from Eriksdale, Manitoba, had been included in the show! |
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Tea Set
Saturday 02 October, Ms. T's Cabaret
w/ Capozzi Park and Young & Sexy |
Julian: When I helped run an art gallery on Commercial Drive called Cosmopolis, there was a cobbler’s warehouse next door called LaBelle Supply. I would see their sign and sing their name LaBelle Supply to the tune of "Ma Belle Ami" by the Tee Set. They eventually closed down and moved, but when I moved to an industrial area of Burnaby in 2002 who should happen to be my neighbor? That’s right: LaBelle Supply!
Robert: I remember Jen Cressy telling me how excited she was to see July Fourth Toilet to play on Saturday night!!! Then saw that it was the unrock sight of five or six guys (all gals were out of town, Jay was visiting in town but was too drunk, what was her last show with us?) sitting in a row playing acoustic and brewing up tea. Sydney Hermant and Jason McLean made me a huge kettle outfit. Andre had the letter "T" on his chest, after he got back from the washroom mid-set it read "P." Mark had a lab coat covered in tea bags. We wrote some great songs for this set: "Here Comes Earl Grey," "Song For Tea," and "Where Is My Tea?" We covered "Tea" by Micheal Hurley, did a Kinks tea medley, and "Ma Belle Amie" by The Tee Set of course. This bill was already set up when The Drippy Gazette's ad rep made me ask all the bands to make this a benefit for Drippy, I didn't want to but I did. This would haunt me later when some ass I didn't even know overheard me ask Mark Szabo if it could be a benefit for Drippy and lied in print in an issue of Bananafish that I said it was a benefit for me. Ahhh, slander... the mag had to print a retraction and did a wonderfully promotional interview with me! Evan Symons: I did sound for this show. I loved Ms. T's! |
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Glammy Set 04 February, the Brickyard w/ Unclean Wiener and Miniature Pancakes ![]() |
Robert: Miniature Pancakes band opened who were great! I had a terrific red jumpsuit and came out with a bunch of balloons. What was our theme? Just a crazy dance party or what? There had to have been a theme. It was a total wild dance party show though.
Julian: Was this the Unclean Weiner set where they played a fire extinguisher? Gosh, I remember that as being at Pat’s Pub.
jody: ...and I don't recall a fire extinguisher being played at all. We should've been documenting these shows better as they happened, because after a while, some of them blur together, despite being such unique, singular creations. Some of the details get lost. Miniature Pancakes were a lot of fun to watch, that lead guy... Robin?... with the mullet, he really poured a lot of intensity and humor into his act, and his fingers were literally bouncing off his keyboard. I'm thinking this was perhaps Hamm's first show with us, and it was an honor to play alongside such a Vancouver rock legend (in the photo on the left, Hamm is right behind me.) Everybody in town loves and respects Hamm, and I remember thinking at the time that it was pretty cool he wanted to get down with us. But it really makes sense if you think about how he dropped his drawers at Expo 86 playing with Slow, inciting all sorts of controversy and a mini-riot. This was a real rocker of a show, we had a pretty big lineup that night... lessee... me, Hamm, Corrine, Robert, Julian, Andre, Susan, Mark, Clancy, Soressa... I was dressed in drag and sang a lot of falsetto that night. The show culminated with a colossal ending that saw a dozen or more audience members join us on stage, real party atmosphere. I never really cared for the Brickyard, I always thought it had horrible acoustics in there, and the sound guys always had 'er cranked a few decibels too loud. I think it was largely because of experiences with loudness at the Brickyard that I radically cut down on seeing live shows, because even earplugs didn't help at this venue. For some reason, a lot of promoters, sound guys and musicians figure loud = good, and I don't know why audiences are so tolerant (other than being so drunk and numb they just don't care.) Not even 30 yet and my hearing had been significantly degraded by this point because I spent so much time seeing and playing rock shows in these shitty venues. The only good thing about the Brickyard was that it had a huge stage and we could easily have twenty people up there at once, so it seems we always had big ensemble performances there, with a lot of audience participation. |
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Seven Hour Set Monday 13 March, the Sugar Refinery |
Robert: The Drippy Gazette's ad rep asked us to a benefit ASAP. The only night free was a rainy Monday so we made no money for Drippy. Almost nobody there. What a great venue though. That place was a high point in Vancouver music, too bad the city pretty much forced it to close due to wanting violent asshole bars to stay open on that strip.
Julian: The Sugar Refinery was some swell place. People would go there to eat, drink, watch a show and have sex on the tables.
Robert: We opened with a half hour version of The Beach Boys' "You're Welcome." George of the Jades played with us for a bit on songs like "Take Me Out to the Ball Game." Had a competition where if someone punched me in the gut they'd win the underwear I was wearing. Terry Plummer won and I slowly got into some other clothes.
jody: It was a weird night. My friend Shimmy's car had just been stolen that evening, yet she still showed up to watch! I found this gem in our "your poems set to music" archive from that night: "Some bastard stole my car / Die bastard die! / Why don't you just crash it up real good baby / I need the insurance money / Don't mind the dog hair / And the brakes are kinda soft / Especially in the rain / Die bastard die."
Robert: I went downstairs and ordered a beer cuz beer was cheaper there, I told the lady we'd dedicate a song to her upstairs. We did. I blacked out during the set, smashed a wine glass into my forehead.
jody: Robert was self-destructing on stage, and I couldn't take it, I had a really hard time, I really freaked out when he grabbed the wine glass, drank it all down in one gulp, and smashed it into pieces against his forehead. People thought it was entertaining, I just thought it was disturbing, and I was really concerned for him. It was the only time I think I ever deeply questioned anything we were doing, it just didn't seem right to keep playing while my friend lay on the floor dead drunk and bleeding, everybody looking on. I wanted to get him up and out of there, and take him home. I said "I don't want to be the soundtrack to Robert's self-destruction!" but Julian laughed at me and told me he'd be fine. He did make it back to his feet... and he kept drinking. And performing! I guess the kid's a natural, because he just kept going. |
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Vancouver Special Release Show - J4T Fashion Show - Tribute To J4T Saturday 25 March, Marine Club w/ Evan's New Band and Capozzi Park ![]() |
Robert: I was in some sort of egotistical snit over The Good Jacket compilation CD and playing this show for some jive ass reason, so we just did a fashion show, we came out in costumes and strutted as songs by Cher et al played.
jody: Cher was my idea, because I was really - REALLY - loving her hit song "Believe" at the time, I used to strip to it for my girlfriend, and I insisted we do part of our runway walk to that song. I think Cher is wonderful.
Julian: I would only do a fashion show as long as EMF's "Unbelievable" was included on our performance soundtrack. It was, and I brought sexy back seven years before Timberlake or Timbaland.
Robert: I was really angry at Clancy for something that he said or did that week so I was in a very bad mood and couldn't enjoy the show! Clancy: Ahhh, Robert, you were mad at me because I complained about your public behavior during our last engagement. One should always endeavor to be courteous and professional when entertaining paying guests. Evan Symons: Evan's New Band played this show in the middle slot. Mark Szabo tried to convince me that we should play first. How could Evan Symons possibly follow July Fourth Toilet, particularly sans moustache? Oh well, the place sold out that night as much because of us as anyone else. It was always my impression that the fashion show was in protest of having to play before us/me. Perhaps this wasn't the reason, as Robert doesn't seem to remember that we'd played that night. It was Sean Raggett from the Good Jacket's idea to have us in the middle slot and when Mark Szabo asked us to open, it seemed obvious that he felt that I should just agree to play first given my obvious inferiority. Oh well, we're all rich rock stars now, so whatever! jody: Whew! Scene politics, boys! I was having none of it at. I've always been a bit of an outsider, never fully accepted by any scenes, so I was often oblivious to this stuff, and I didn't care because it turned out to be an excellent night for all involved, anyway. And let's not forget the whole point of Sean's Vancouver Special project in the first place was to raise money to A Loving Spoonful, the charity that provides food for poor persons with AIDS and HIV. And Evan's New Band really rocked out, I'm glad we did a scaled back show, it worked out well. Robert: Capozzi Park gave us our comeuppance by doing a Tribute To July Fourth Toilet using my costumes and wearing fake moustache and glasses. They performed Phantom Of the Paradise. They chose that because they wanted to beat us to the tribute punch. It was nice to have a trib by this underrated Vancouver band. Mark Szabo is the underrecognized soul of modern Vancouver music. Seriously. He's influenced a lot of people. And he's a great songwriter. Years later we'd do some Phantom songs for Paul Williams.
jody: I'll always remember this night mostly for the brilliant tribute to us by Capozzi Park. And I was so flattered: Mark actually wrote a song about me, for me to sing a cappella as the finale for the evening! It was an honor and a surprise to have Mark write this song. Former Toilet drummer Max Lee was bashin' skins for Capozzi Park, and Amy Honey made a memorable cameo as a nurse trying to sedate Mark with a giant syringe. Mark aped Robert perfectly, rolling around on the floor and everything. My role in all this? I was in the audience acting all angry and indignant about their tribute. I'd yell at them, "that's disrespectful! Stop it!" Finally, I stormed the stage, pulled out a gun, and shot each member of the band down to the ground one by one. Then I stepped up to the mic, pulled a piece of paper out of my pocket that had the song written on it, tapped the mic, said "ahem," and sang the song about ... ME. The lyrics were a little abstract, and I never asked Mark what they meant, but it seemed to be about me sucking as a performer/musician/artist (perhaps that was a common perception?) yet having the last laugh because, if nothing else, despite my amateurism and imperfections I was seen as sincere. Always nice to know you're appreciated and recognized, and I felt very special. |
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The Unicorn
Friday 14 April, the Brickyard w/ Bobby Conn and Destroyer picture links to YouTube video
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Robert: This was a really great show! jody dressed as a unicorn. I fed him sugar cubes. We did a "March Of The Unicorn" where I took him up to the bar to get a beer joined by a fella in white tux on violin. We then sacrificed the unicorn. We also did a Destroyer/Wings medley. I bought these great pink denim suspenders that Sue told me to cut real short then put in the wash. I was trying to get away from my rep for nudity and really wanted to just be a great entertainer. However, when I put these on at the show they had shrunk and my balls hung out. This was written about in a bad review by someone who didn't even watch our set (that's the response we'd get sometimes, people who wouldn't even see us reviewing us!) and my nude reputation remained for awhile.
Meeting Bobby Conn and Monica Bou Bou was amazing, we were like kindred spirits! I remember Bobby dedicating their song "Whore" to me as I tried to pull off his clothes. I blacked out and cried a lot that night but we still bonded. Julian: I was blown away by Bobby Conn. He was a revelation. A diminutive powerhouse. When I found out the folks I had gone to the gig with missed his entire set because they were drunkenly smoking pot with crackheads in the pissy lane, I never forgave them.
jody: It was a great show, and perhaps it's good that it was, because it was my last show for a long time. This would be my third hiatus from the band, and, as it turns out, my longest: two and a half years away from the stage. Why? Was I fired again? Did I leave town again? No. I think this was a time of transition for many members of the band: people had other projects on the go, or were going through personal changes, there were some personality clashes, that sort of thing. I suppose I was just the earliest to exit. Robert and Hamm started to see some success this year when their first Canned Hamm album came out, Andre joined lush indie pop group Young and Sexy and spent time recording and touring with them, Clancy became one of the most sought-after videographers in Vancouver, Mark was training to become a chef. I started writing more, this turned out to be my most prolific year as a filmmaker, and I really threw myself into Utopian community-building projects. And I think there was some general frustration in the band that our wonderful, brilliant album, Something For Everyone, was taking such a long time to finish, largely due to the diaspora. We started recording in 1997, but the album wasn't released until late 2002. I think this was the beginning of the July Fourth Toilet Dark Ages: gigs were few and far between, and it seems like band members didn't socialize with each other as much any more. But that's life, right? I think it just took us a period of time to adjust and find our ways back again... and we all did. I'd say we're now in a new Golden Age. |
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Owen & Terry Plummer Wedding
21 August, Ms. T's Cabaret |
Susan: There was another show where we did "Little Wa Wa"and I remember Lorill dancing around with an umbrella. Clancy wasn't there - I think we were all acoustic? It was a gentle show... lots of seamles audience blending into performers' space.
Robert: That's right, we played songs for their wedding, a few requests that they wanted, a later Byrds song from Untitled. It was nice.
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Fantastic Planet
Friday 13 October,
the Sugar Refinery
w/ the Jades |
Robert: We were painted in gold and were to do Fantastic Planet music. It came out flawed though our lengthy version of our song "Count The Love" went over well with the lovely Anna holding me the whole time and Susan doing a great flute solo. I had a crazy snare contraption for our version of "You Can Leave Your Hat On."
Susan: Robert had cymbals duct-taped to his hands and one flew off and injured a young lady. But folks were in a forgiving mood that night, it was a happy show. Julian: There was a show? Where?
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Candy
November, ANZA Club |
Robert: We gave out a lot of candy! Had a pinata that people smashed! Played "Kandy Korn" by Beefheart and "Candy Man" by Sammy Davis Jr. Fun stuff!
Julian: Y’know, I really like our version of "Candy Man." We also recorded a version for… oh, what comp was that? Anyhoo, I do remember using Ted Bois' amp for that recording session. The amp had built-in sounds right in its little digital brain and I could make my guitar sound like a hurdy-gurdy, man!
Robert: Julian, we recorded "Candy Man" for a Sammy Davis Jr. tribute comp that came with the all Sammy issue of Roctober. Roctober! Now there's a mag!
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Fire
December, Cambrian Hall w/ JP5 and Rockin' |
Robert: So so set, we went on way too late, lots of songs about fire. During Hendrix's "Fire," Hamm set a guitar on fire. The power shut off so we went upstairs and sang "We're July Fourth Toilet" a cappella. We were burned out on this and our first album being stalled so we didn't play for a while after this.
Julian: Promoter dude set an X-Mas tree on fire that sent flames shooting ten feet into the air, scorching the ancient Cambrian Hall's vintage ceiling. The space filled with smoke and I cautiously stayed close to the exit.
Robert: The promoter was the one, the only David Yonge of Rockin' fame. He also made a 3D movie that starred himself and no one else! |
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War and Peace 28 December, ANZA Club w/ Young & Sexy |
Julian: What I love about the ANZA is it’s two-tiered approach to gigs. If the main hall is featuring acts you can't abide, then just cozy on up to the fire downstairs in the dunfy billiards/draughts room.
Robert: An amazing set! We did this right after September 11th! Intense! Hamm's organ intro of Prism's "Armageddon" into "Crumbling Down" by Mellencamp. Andre's bass playing was very on this night! "Another One Bites the Dust!" We did a long version of the Doors' "The End" during which I was searching for Bin Laden. We handed out envelopes of confetti after the small pox scare. It all ended in a rousing crowd sing along of "Kumbaya." We did a strong set of originals after that. Susan: There was love in the room. Robert did a scary good Jim Morrison impression. Folks were genuinely moved. jody: I rehearsed for this show, and was really excited about playing, I was supposed to do a Martin Sheen Apocalypse Now bit during our cover of "The End." But I came down with the flu a day before the show and had to pass, which was a major bummer, especially since the new originals, especially "Ballad of the Rooftop Sniper," were so rockin'. |
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Bob Dylan's Dylan
13 September, Pat's Pub w/ Patients and Hugh Phukovsky ![]() |
Robert: Hugh Phukovsky is this stand up comic that I became very close pals with after he and his girlfriend just started showing up at July Fourth Toilet shows; they stumbled into their first show by accident and kept coming! And Hugh is verrry talented himself! (What was Patients? I don't remember.) Pat's wasn't a bad venue when Chris Frey booked it, he really had it together.
Gregg Turkington turned me on to the Dylan album, an album Dylan's former label released out of spite after he left them, the worst outtakes of covers ever such as "Big Yellow Taxi." I do have a perverse love of the Dylan album, it fascinates me, yes, it was funny to play Dylan and have it literally be that Dylan album but there was so much to work with there: why wasn't this included in "I'm Not There"? See, we may occasionally use irony but after our Billy Joel debacle trib in 1995 I learned that I only want to do material that we honestly have an affinity for, a sincere passion. Yes, we can often be 'funny' but so much of what we do comes from very deep personal places. Clancy: This Dylan album is so lackluster that I could not face the music, so I opted to film the show in extreme close-ups of Robert's (Bob's) white pancake makeup face, whilst he stoically curbs himself from laughing!
jody: While the album itself was so-so, the material was excellent and easy to work with, a lot of classics. And it was fun to be with the band again, although Robert was super pissed off I showed up wearing shorts, a tense re-entry into the world of Toilet performances.
Julian: Y'know, for me these Toilet gigs were about fun. Looking back on all the years of comments, I am surprised at how out of touch I was with the backroom politics that were going on. As the glue, I remained oblivious to the in-fights, firings, and wardrobe malfunctions (another Timberlake reference for those of you keeping track). I just wanted everyone to stick together.
Robert: Ah, the backroom politics here were pretty slight if anything, I mean I wasn't that pissed off, being a real stickler about outfits (part of my anti-indie rock aesthetic: I hate it when peeps wear tee shirt and shorts onstage, always have, I believe in showmanship, and jody has looked amazing time and time again). I was just worried before the show that the shorts would affect the performance: I needn't have worried, jody was terrific. And even then I knew that there were important things to think about than shorts! Like the two tequila breaks we took mid-set! The great promoter Chris Frey (and he was/is great) brought shots of tequila up onstage for us, the second time was after last call so the crowd could only look on, one fella wanted one desperately but it was for the band! The tequila break wasn't a nod to Dylan but to Neil Young's Tonight's the Night show at the Troubadour that wasn't even released as an album yet, a similar bleak vibe except Neil bought the entire audience a round. Not us. We're broke, we don't even have a label. Is David Geffen still alive? Ha ha!
Our set was very low key and bleak. During "The Ballad Of Ira Hayes" we folded up an American flag that had an American Indian head superimposed on it. I had Rolling Thunder era Dylan makeup on and was insanely restrained, I had a harmonica holder with my hands in my pockets.
Susan: Robert mixed oatmeal into his makeup.
jody: Since Robert was going "whiteface," I went blackface and tapped along to "Mr. Bojangles," a song about a minstrel show performer. Maybe not the best idea we ever came up with, and it was far from being a great moment on stage for me, as I just felt awkward and embarrassed. I think what I'll remember best from this gig is the song "Lily of the West," which Susan and I added some great, soaring, high backup vocals to: "the name she bore was Flora, Lily of the West." Susan and Eric later named their first-born child Flora, so whenever someone refers to her, I can hear Susan singing her name.
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Something For Everyone CD Release Party 27 December, ANZA Club w/ My Project: Blue |
Clancy: I produced this album! I still have the band's RAW DEMO on cassette, which I was to turn into the silk purse we ended up with.
Robert: Very long set of originals, we opened with me dressed in a king's robe that Sue made for me crowning everyone in a plunger as we sang circus music. Show was so-so as Mark got too drunk and kinda shit over the songs, he felt bad the next day. The worst time to release a CD is at the end of December. jody: Clancy was always harping on us about doing a show of all original material, which we rarely ever did. We played all the album tracks, plus some other older "hits." Mostly I recall sharing a mic with Mark and propping him up half the time, holding the mic right up so he could sing. Ah, so he shit on the songs, so what? He needed to do it, maybe release some inner shit, it seemed to lift his spirits, he had an obvious love and passion for the songs. so I let him give'r. He worked hard engineering the album, he's a good man, and we all need a little musical therapy from time to time.
Julian: My Project: Blue is now remembered as Sweet Fuck All. Is that right?
Robert: My Project: Blue still exists! Put out an album in 2006. Sweet Fuck All broke off into Ladies Night and Vancougar, both have numerous singles and albums. Scott, who played the totally fucked guitar in SFA now plays in Hallmark, the melodramatic glitter rock ballad band that I've started. I'm not sure when Shayne left the band but I do know it was on the initial pre-production sessions for this album because a click track for the drums was insisted on which counter acted our organic feel. I was bummed when he told me he was leaving but what could I do? In the end we decided against a click track (we laughed and told Clancy "NO!"), Shayne as Kurtis Interruptis uses a click track regularly on his hip hop music and came back to play on sessions for our second album! Time does heal! |
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Records
19 April-17 May, Western Front ![]() |
Western Front Catalogue: Records brings together some aspects of Canada's art/noise/new-music scene from the prolific noodlings of the All-Star Schnauzer Band, the dulcet tones of July 4th Toilet, London, Ontario's influential Nihilist Spasm Band, as well as some recent New Music street performances produced by the Western Front New Music Programme. Works in the exhibition include Jason McLean's costumes used by July 4th Toilet, musical instruments by Art Pratten, Toronto filmmaker Zev Asher's documentary What About Me: The Rise Of The Nihilist Spasm Band, video footage by Clancy Dennehy (for an upcoming documentary) and other records and ephemera. Robert: We had a lot of the costumes including the ones Jason made for me on display. It was a really nice show! |
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Cosmic Metharthasis (Metatharsis) Friday 28 November, Pat's Pub w/ Rockin' and Hugh Phukovsky |
Julian: Pat’s Pub will always be in my heart. The mural depicting fetal-alcohol Elvis, Dennis Wilson drowning, Sick Jagger and Jake (Hank Williams) Gyllenhaal will remain with me forever.
Robert: Man, we sure had come along way! Our improvised chops were up as we tried to summon the energy of the universe! Very intense! Josh Stevenson played on this. Jeremy Schmidt of Black Mountain came up and played some odd contraption. The sound was awful as promoter-sound guy didn't know what he was doing so I tried to sing as best I could but all my low notes were drowned out so I sang an odd falsetto. I based my character on an older Mexican dancer I saw perform with graish make up but still sexy! jody was very shamanistic. He and Mark opened the set with bells, pots, pans and chanting.
jody: This show was a high watermark for us, it's definitely one of our best shows ever. In our early years, our improvisations were clunky, cacophonous, flailing about in all directions, with little purpose, very hit and miss. But we really came together for this show. We'd all matured as musicians and performance artists over the years, and we rarely had the opportunity to play together anymore. This performance was pure magic, and I largely attribute that to the fact that we knew each other so well, had been playing together for such a long time, and really just missed making music together. This show was all about intuition and feeling rather than concept. Our framework was simple: (1) no rock riffs/chords from our guitar players, (2) listen very carefully to what others are playing, and follow along, (3) stay a unified force and (4) really draw upon some kind of cosmic energy. Robert led us in an initiatic mushroom unity ritual backstage moments before we started.
Mark and I opened the show from the floor: he banged away on this rack of odd percussion instruments while I, dressed as a hermaphroditic witch, tapped the very core, the very essence of my being, as I slipped into a deep trance-state. I danced, warbled, screeched, sang from my throat as I cast a spell over the audience. As we raised the energy in the room, the rest of the players walked on stage one by one and joined us until we were all playing together as a unified whole.
Listening to the recording of the show, watching the video afterward, we were pretty blown away: yeah, it felt right while we were doing it, but, wow! You could notice the shifts in the music: so subtle, quick, yet organic and smooth. A player would deviate a little, sneak off in a different direction, and, within seconds, everybody would be on the same path. While this performance would never be mistaken for jazz, it certainly had much more in common with the spirit of jazz or avant-garde improvisation a la John Zorn than it did with our earlier cacophony, or (ugh!) "jam rock."
So this brings up, again, the eternal paradox of our artistry, and the amount of recognition and respect we get for the work we do. We played this show in a rock dive on skid row to an audience of bemused hipsters. Within a different cultural context or presentation venue, like an art gallery or a concert hall where "serious" musical artists play, this show might not have gone unnoticed. It's all about marketing, and we've never really been able to market our stuff well because it is so different. We don't quite fit in with the indie musicians because we're not genre-bound or generic enough, and we don't fit in with the highbrow avant-garde types because we're not "serious" enough. We're de facto outsiders.
Robert: Heh heh, jody, I never dug the Zorn, but hey... a lot of peeps there were really into it, there right up close to the stage, you can see artist Aurel Shmidt in the audience twitching to the sounds, that's the effect it had. It was packed and people were into it and some thought we were some brand new wild noise rock act! That's because we had slowed down on playing out and hadn't really navigated to that new scene of experimental music folks, who I must say are far less pretentious and more receptive than the 90s noise scene! I'll gladly play for those peeps again and I know for a fact that they are willing to have us. You can call these folks hipsters but they ain't the American apparel wearing 'cool at the moment' type of hipsters but I'd take all of their money if it allowed me to create personal visions completely unfettered! |
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Rock Fantasy
23 July, WISE Hall
w/ The Penguins |
from the press release:
After Ten Years Together, July Fourth Toilet Visits
The Land Where The Animals Are People (And People Are The Animals) July Fourth Toilet is celebrating their tenth anniversary by staging the biggest performance of their notorious history. The enigmatic troupe will play the rock 'n' roll musical Rock Fantasy, an obscure, generic K-Tel children's record from 1975. Their entire 18-piece music and performance ensemble will be dressed in strange anthropomorphic animal costumes. "Rock Fantasy was a loosely-structured concept album in which characters lived in ‘a land where the animals are people, and the people are the animals,' said show architect Julian Lawrence. "I've wanted us to play this album since I discovered it ten years ago!" Most of the songs on Rock Fantasy were actually first recorded by novelty pop singer Jewel Akens ("The Birds and the Bees") in 1965. The album itself consists of new lyrics and funny animal vocals dubbed over the original backing tracks. Toilet performer jody franklin did some research on the record's curious and elusive history. "I found out that K-Tel bought all the music from Akens' label Era Records when it went belly-up in the early 70s," said franklin. "All of the songs were credited to the label's owner Herb Newman, who didn't compose any of them." Lawrence, the publisher of Drippytown Comics, founded July Fourth Toilet in 1994 with then-roommate, writer/performer Robert Dayton. "We're all big music fans, and enjoy a variety of styles," said Dayton. "With each show we put on, I wanted us to try something new, to push our own boundaries, and the boundaries of our audiences." Following this philosophy, the band garnered a reputation for having an amusingly eclectic and wildly unpredictable live act. Music critic Shawn Conner once wrote in The Georgia Straight, "That is the beauty of the Toilet: one never knows what to expect. I've seen the band five times, and each time has been radically different." From skid row bars to art galleries, July Fourth Toilet played spectacular costumed theme shows that defied genre conventions as they seamlessly switched from bluegrass through southern rock to exotic lounge. "We've set audience members' hastily scrawled poems to music, we've played six and seven hour sets. We even did a tribute to Michael Nesmith that earned a nod from the Monkee himself!" said franklin. Lawrence mused, "We plan to celebrate our tenth anniversary in style, the only way we know how!" Joining Lawrence, Franklin and Dayton will be fellow long-time Toilet regulars Big Hamm of Canned Hamm, Susan Box and filmmaker/photographer Clancy Dennehy. They've invited several guests to participate in this show, including comedian/actor Paul Anthony, Buy Nothing Day founder Ted Dave, The West Ender "Clip 'n' Save" cartoonist Robin Konstabaris, singer-songwriter Mark Szabo, film producer and Phat Tank creator Step Carruthers, artists Owen & Terry Plummer, and many, many more. Robert: This was out tenth anniversary set! A production Julian had dreamed of doing for years! Animal outfits! Lots of guests! Colourful set! It was magical bubblegum glam. I was Bernie Byrd who kinda narrated the thing. Julian weaved a story and comic book around it.
Julian: Rock Fantasy was a fantasy come true. There was something about the songs found on the K-Tel nugget: the earnest interpretations, the obscure concept, the coke-fueled arrangements… the Toilet had to do it. Krista brought it to the ‘Couve in 8-Track format back in 1993 and bestowed it upon me as a gift. Robert found multiple vinyl copies at the Alien. Ten years later, we do it justice with two performances: one for the kids, another for the dolts.
jody: Julian really worked hard on this, I'd never seen the man so dedicated, disciplined and driven. He had us practicing twice a week almost three months in advance of the show. He wanted it tight: our trademark sloppiness was to be a thing of the past. Thing is, many of our guest stars were non-musicians. We had Owen and Terry, one of two husband and wife duos in the show, dressed as cats singing "The Birds and the Bees" as a duet. Owen couldn't hit one right note, and he always fell out of rhythm during our practices, which seemed especially frustrating to musical perfectionists like Hamm. No matter how much we worked that song, Owen never got close to being able to do it "right." But it worked beautifully! He came across as this beat poet off in his own little world, and his deep, rich voice had a very nice tonal quality to it. I didn't know the Plummers well, but I was especially happy to have them up there with us, because they were perhaps our biggest fans, always a fixture at our shows, sitting quietly off in some corner, doodling away and smiling. To me, this was as much our tribute to them as anything else.
As for my part, well... I played Jack Kass, the singing mule. I can't sew, I'm not a costume designer, but I managed to make this donkey head with fake fur from stuffed animals, a ball cap and cardboard, all glued and stapled and duct-taped together. It weighed a ton on my head, and I couldn't see a thing when I was wearing it. To top it off, I had bad acid reflux the day of the show. I sang on almost every song, and, during our first set, I blew out my vocal chords singing backups because, for some stupid reason, I insisted on alternating between the high female backups in falsetto, and dropping down to bass on the song "The Fox." By the time our second show came 'round, I had to sing lead on two songs with a hoarse voice. I gave it my all, but was in pain for days afterward.
Susan: My fiance Eric was on stage for the first time in 28 years, it was his 40th birthday that day. We all sweated buckets under our fun fur and greasepaint but it was well worth it. I'd do that show again in a heartbeat! Clancy: That album was so thoroughly horrible! It really tested my faith but I am forever changed. Still got my dog suit!
Robert: To each their own. The Rock Fantasy album gives me joy in my darkest hours.
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Drippytown Comics & Stories Launch Party
25 June, the Lamplighter w/ Mecca Normal, Dave Dawson, jody franklin and Clancy's Angels |
Julian: I was on a roll: putting together shows, creating comics, making music, blah blah blah yadda yadda yadda etc. etc. etc.… This was the beginning of my end or the end of my beginning, I’m still not sure three years after the fact. All I know is I fell… and hard.
Robert: We did a rain, rainbow, and sun set. For the sun set I was in my skivvies and got people to rub sun tan oil on me. Great to play with Mecca Normal who've been around for even longer!
Clancy: This was the debut of Clancy's Angels back up singers, now a raging beast of 20 plus members. jody: Perhaps I'm in the minority on this, but I feel this was one of our best shows ever, definitely in my top two or three favorites. There are several reasons for this. First, we make a damned good pop band, and this was perhaps our poppiest show ever! The material we covered was stuff I really dug, it was mostly late 60s-early 70s era light psych pop, stuff by the Move, the Cowsills, the Temptations. The addition of Clancy's Angels, which included the debut of Kim Stewart, who has now become an important regular member of the band, allowed us to explore the backup vocals thing more fully than we'd done before. We tried multi-part harmonies, more complex vocal arrangements, and it was a lot of fun getting into that. And I got to play those kind of archetypal, shamanistic, witchy, God-like characters I love to get into so much, so for me, it was a perfect combination of the things I enjoy best about what we do. During the rain portion, I was the shaman making it rain, doing a rain dance to the Guess Who song of the same name. When it came time for the sun to shine, the band ritualistically called upon me to rise as they sang and played the Beatles' "Sun King." I was covered from head to toe in glittery gold with a sun mask, and I towered over everyone. Then, in one of my rare lead vocal moments, I sang the Beatles' "Good Day Sunshine" in a booming approximation of Scott Walker, one of my favorite vocalists. After that Robert and I degenerated into some wildly fun performance antics in front of the stage as we shot sun tan oil all over him, and he rolled around on the floor while I danced above him, dropping my golden rays onto his bronzing body. After the show, I received more compliments from audience members than I ever had before, and even had strangers ask to hug me! While the prank and punk elements of what we do has always been fun, I like that we made so many people happy that night. I was glowing for days after this show! |
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Benefit For The Victims Of July Fourth Toilet
25 November, the Lamplighter w/ The Penguins, Hugh Phukovsky and DJ Ol' Dirty Balogh
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Robert: We set this show up as one long telethon! We had a thermometer and 50/50 draw and Bake sale! Amongst other things! We mostly played our originals. My brother Frank played guitar on the second half of the hard rocking set. A couple fine people named Johnny U of Rockin' and Heidi manned the phones for pledges.
Julian: Heidi was also featured in my pal Ann Marie Fleming's film The French Guy. She played the English French maid. A fine actress and performer.
Robert: The soundman was awful! He stood outside and smoked until Frank played with us, as he considered him a 'real musician.' Real soundmen do the job they are paid to do and take pride in their work. |
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Paul Williams Tribute / Your Poems Set To Music
25 April, Media Club ![]() |
Robert: The amazing Kier-La Janisse put on a music on film festival called Big Smash and she flew Paul Williams out here. He is a wonderful man.I was now a sober person as of two days before; luckily, Paul Williams is a counsellor. He was also sitting ten feet away as we performed his songs! I was so nervous! But it went over extremely well! This great guy Marty played guitar because he heard we were doing this! Kim Stewart played bass as Andre was too busy. Jason Mclean built another bubble wrap out fit all these years later for "Theme To Boy In The Plastic Bubble." Jen Cressy tap danced over me with a head stone sign as a recreation of a scene not in the Phantom Of The Paradise movie! Paul Williams complimented us for playing "Dangerous Business" from Ishtar.
Julian: Can’t… gasp… talk… Too (choke)… wheeze…
jody: As with Rock Fantasy, another dream come true for Julian. He drew a wonderful illustration of Paul for our poster, a very beautiful tribute to the man. This show is a good example of why we are successful in what we do: we sincerely love the music. There's no piss-take: humor, sure, maybe a little irony, but no sneering, no maliciousness, just pure musical en'tainment. I must say, though, that this show brought some of the most bizarre fans out of the woodwork. Not our fans, Paul Williams fans, almost stalker-like creepy. It's always very weird to me to see people actively worshiping other human beings.
Clancy: The wonderful Paul Williams and his catchy tunes sung by the Muppets, Tiny Tim, Ishtar (not his fault), and now July Fourth Toilet (our fault)! Robert's first stone sober gig in honor of Paul - I could see that his stage persona was not dependent on getting liquored up! Robert: I'd like to mention the sound man Shawn for this show. I love that man. He is accommodating and professional, doesn't drink on the job, and has an incredible demeanour. Did I mention that he's very good at what he does? Sound men like him are to be treasured. He made a great night even greater. |
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15 July, Pat's Pub w/ The World Provider, Johnny Karate Guy and Kara Keith |
Robert: This was a good show. The idea was to have one person onstage to start playing then a second person to join and so on and so on until the whole band is onstage. Then everyone leaves one by one in order of who came on first. All timed to three minutes by our referee played by Johnny U (aka Johnny Karate) who wore a ref shirt and a whistle. My outfit was intense: blonde wig, speedos, roller blade armour, red rain slicker. I think the first one on was Hamm on small keyboard. I was last one on, last to leave. I sang a cappella for three minutes. I was more honed and focused than I have ever been and am more than ready to do more shows. Kara Keith never showed up. If you haven't listened to the World Provider yet you are missing out. Clancy: I had been hanging with some Plains Cree Indians and I was inspired to eschew the usual rock drum set for one drum, one beat. Back to the roots. |
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